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Anahuac: I always go to a salon to dye my hair.. but yes.. I have seen the box dyes and of course, the woman displaying that hair color is una white girl.. but also.. white girls on the boxes have brown hair, red hair, and even black hair.. to me they look white they dont look latina.. besides mijo i dont think a hair color defines if you're mexican or not.. look, how many Mexican celebrities have their hair dyed.. es porque esta de moda.. not because they want to look white.. ya ves Drew Barrymore she's had dark colored hair tambien..
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I have seen the box dyes and of course, the woman displaying that hair color is una white girl

Thank you for answering that honestly.
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hmmmm

i dont know what to say about this....

i was thinking about dying my hair blonder or putting hight lights because i want to look different and ive heard it makes u look younger....

i didnt do it cuz i think brown hais pretty and i am glad i have it......


and i do realize that in this world that white people colonized lighter is better. its and aesthetic imposed upon us by this white ideal and so we are taught that what is whiter looks better...
Lol thas actually why i ended up not dying my hair...i dont know how much younger i could look....


anahuac history i dont really get the point of your thread....you seem to say that women dye their hair blond because they want to look white...to a certain extent that is true....but its also true that this society views white women as "prettier" lighter is better....

i think the real problem is that women feel they need to change themselves in order to please society and to try to fit a model of beauty that really does not fit them.....


and yet i dont know if that is what women are thinking when they are dying their hair....oh now im going to look white so im going to look better...this is a subconcious process and it isnt till you start questioning it that you really really begin to understand what is going on.....


in other words i dont think that women dying our hair blond is the problem its just a symptom of the problem....colonization...
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It's impossible to know the motives of EVERY woman that dyes her hair blonde.


It's also asinine to state that ALL Chicano men want a blonde/white woman over a brunette/Mexican woman.





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but its also true that this society views white women as "prettier" lighter is better....


This is true?? As in it's an undisputable fact?


I think I live in the same society and I dont think that I see things this way.
I can say for sure, that I DO NOT see lighter as better.



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in other words i dont think that women dying our hair blond is the problem its just a symptom of the problem....colonization...

Solitude says he thinks the blacks are trying to colonize us.

Does that mean that Chicana/s will soon be sporting afro puffs and corn rows and all the Chicano men will want women that look Afro-American?
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anahuac history i dont really get the point of your thread....you seem to say that women dye their hair blond because they want to look white...its also true that this society views white women as "prettier" lighter is better....

It sounds like you very clearly understand the point of this thread.

You explained very well.
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I personally like girls with dark color hair.

Me too!


I saw this woman in the store yesterday, all-natural, authentic black hair.

But she had kind of a wavy, "wet" look to it.
Man that was attractive.


I'm also partial to when they have it hanging to one side over their shoulder....that's what I'm talkin' about...


Now when I see a woman with authentic hair (not "bottle- blonde"),
it adds a new level of beauty to it all.

It says "I got self-esteem that can't be found in a bottle of Clairol."

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And your idea of being "creative" is to become BLONDE (fake)... By your definition, Selena was "uncreative" because she did not dye her hair blonde.
(see post at top of this page) Funny, how "creative" really means imitating the features of Nordic Europeans.Your implication is that having brunette natural hair is "uncreative" and "unexpressive."
You fail at reading comprehension.

I never defined creativity and would never be so arrogant as to try. I defend a person's right to to express their artistic value, without having to measure up to your brash assumptions. I never implied that natural is uncreative.

Looking back at my post, it seems that you haven't understood much of anything that was written and that you rather just mislead the topic. If you can't support your opinion without deluding yourself, then maybe you need to step back and think more before posting. You would be doing everyone a favor.


Unfortunately, there's no reason to believe you'd understand this post either, so I question why I even bothered.
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I never implied that natural is uncreative.

Well it's great to see you make that clear.
Way to go.
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I've never lightened my hair even though people always suggest that I go blonde or red. I have always liked having dark hair and the darker the better! I never thought they were suggesting it so that I can look like a white woman. That's silly!

In my opinion, only the individual really knows why they like to lighten or change their natural hair color.
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I've never lightened my hair even though people always suggest that I go blonde or red. I have always liked having dark hair and the darker the better! I never thought they were suggesting it so that I can look like a white woman. That's silly!

In my opinion, only the individual really knows why they like to lighten or change their natural hair color.
That's great to hear you are sticking your guns and displaying your natural hair (not being a "bottle blonde").



General question:

You say that your friends suggested the blonde thing not bec they wanted you to look white (consciously this may be true.)
And to your credit, you rejected the idea.


If not from white people, then from where did they get the idea of having blonde hair at all?


(Mexicans are not natural blondes, thats a European thing.)
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^^ anahuac history

whats with the anti blonde obsession?


people are people, they have their own reasons for doing what they want with their hair.

oh don't tell me your trying to turn mexican woman into mexford wives.
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If not from white people, then from where did they get the idea of having blonde hair at all?
I have asked why and a couple of people said it would flatter my skin tone. I like my dark hair so there would be no way that I would bleach it. People have also suggested that I go to a tanning booth but that is also something I would not do.

By the way, my best friend is 100% Mexican and a natural blonde (we have been friends all of our lives so I know her hair has always been blonde). She is not someone who has suggested I go blonde.

LOL @ Mexford Wives?
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whats with the anti blonde obsession?

You're framing the question wrong:

It should be:

"Anahuac History,
what's with the Pro-Indigenous/ pro-Mexican obsession?

Why on earth would you want your people to br proud of their true selves instead of a fake bottle of European Blonde? "
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If not from white people, then from where did they get the idea of having blonde hair at all?
I have asked why and a couple of people said it would flatter my skin tone. I like my dark hair so there would be no way that I would bleach it. People have also suggested that I go to a tanning booth but that is also something I would not do.

By the way, my best friend is 100% Mexican and a natural blonde (we have been friends all of our lives so I know her hair has always been blonde). She is not someone who has suggested I go blonde.

LOL @ Mexford Wives?
its a play on words from a movie called the stepford wives made in i think the seventies, where the husbands had the perfect wives.

there has been a remake, this is a link to the new stepford wives.

it loads pretty slow, so have patience.

www.stepfordwivesmovie.com/
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Look at Selena...she was super-gorgeous with that natural hair....She was constantly showing it off.

-Anahuac_History

I knew that we'd eventually agree on somethin' in this thread. But there was somethin else about here that made her so beautiful...can't put my palm on it, but it'll come to me.
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whats with the anti blonde obsession?

You're framing the question wrong:

It should be:

"Anahuac History,
what's with the Pro-Indigenous/ pro-Mexican obsession?

Why on earth would you want your people to br proud of their true selves instead of a fake bottle of European Blonde? "

hey i hear ya,

i am pro indigenous, pro mexican, pro aztlan, pro a lot of things,but i am also pro choice.
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there was somethin else about here that made her so beautiful...can't put my palm on it, but it'll come to me.

I think I know what you are talking about,
and in that case, I'm pretty sure you're gonna need at LEAST two palms, maybe THREE to deal with that one...



But damn....she was FINE
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You’re right; in this case two palms would be better than one.

But in all seriousness, there may be some who suffer from some sort of (for lack of a better term) self-hate, but I tend to think that most of these people just like the look- with no thought of “looking white.” I’ve seen some cholas with yellow ass hair, but I doubt anyone would ever accuse them of wanting to “look white.” Sometimes the answer is more simple than complex.

And to be honest, I think ladies look much better with their natural hair color, especially if it’s dark. My ex would like to make her hair a little lighter and I would always plead with her to color it back to her naturally darker color. Sometimes I would win, but mostly it was her hair and she did as she pleased.
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i'm sick and tired of all this bullshit of people with saying if you do this your hiding your Chicano, Chicana's do this to be white, F**k that people do and be what they want to be and who they are, If you walked up to me and say you trying to be white cuz i have on a Af o AE shirt with some baggy jeans, i'll punch you where you stand, Chicano is who you are and whats inside now how you look, so stop with this BS if he/she thinks there white, people who act like that most likely lost their BF/GF to a whit boy/Girl and is hating for it grow up and BE YOU AND ONLY YOU
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personally i wouldnt dye my hair blonde.
and NO not all chicanos like to date white bitches.
most os my friens like chicanas

SO THERE!!!
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I never thought Selena was that hot.

Sure she was attractive but I see prettier girls that post here on Soy.


I think people tend to prop her up because they see her as some sort of hero to all Chicano/a's.
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But in all seriousness, there may be some who suffer from some sort of (for lack of a better term) self-hate, but I tend to think that most of these people just like the look- with no thought of “looking white.”

I totally agree that they are not consciously saying
"I want to look more like a white girl."


They are saying:
- "I want to look prettier (than my natural hair)..."

- "I want to catch guys' eyes more (than my natural hair does)"

- "I want to be perceived as more exciting (than what my natural hair makes me look like)."

- "I want to look like that girl in that novela, or that music video (not like my true self)."



And blonde is that path they take overwhelmingly (not purple, not green, not blue).
Blonde is a natural European trait.


The whole notion that they are trying to be "original" is pure bullshit
because of the massive numbers of them COPYING the fake blonde look.


Fake blondes copying other fake blondes is NOT "original."


It's more of a brainwashing thing:
They know the guys prefer to hump on a blondie than on a brunette.
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They know the guys prefer to hump on a blondie than on a brunette.

Perhaps you're projecting your own desires but we've already established that your "theory" that all CHicanos want to fuck white girls (or Mexican girls posing as white girls) is asinine and unfounded.

Please stop reguritating the same stupid idea or else people may get the idea that you're a complete idiot.
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Please stop reguritating the same stupid idea or else people may get the idea that you're a complete idiot.
It's obvious this strikes a deep nerve with you.

I've been ignoring you, but you can't stop chasing me.


I have nothign personal against you,
I'm sure you're a nice guy.

But you are boring.
And quite frankly, even your recycled frat-boy humor is not even very amusing.

Hope you feel better soon.



P.S. You had better ideas and better wit before you went pelon.
"The Mean Streets of Seattle"...now that was witty.
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You're right that ignorant blanket statements do tend to strike a cord with me.

Chasing you?


Dont flatter yourself. I'm just not one to let retarded comments go unchecked.

I'm not a nice guy, and my purpose here isnt to entertain you with my "frat boy humor".



I seriously think your statement about ALL CHicanos wanting to fuck white girls is moronic.

And I dont think youre ignoring me because your trying to take the high ground, I think your ignoring me because you have nothing to back up your asinine claim.
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