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All signs point to No.. I already knew that beautiful indigenous women are goddesses vato.. Your on the naughty list til further notice..

Ever do something really bad and turn around and your beautiful wrinkled ol' abuela is standing right behind you giving you that look? I'm SOOOOOOOOOOO tellin her what you said! And if I can't find her, I got a crew of back up abuelitas just waiting.. *dials Monterrey*
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race (2)
1. a group of persons related by common descent or heredity.
2. a population so related.
3. Anthropology. a. any of the traditional divisions of humankind, the commonest being the Caucasian, Mongoloid, and Negro, characterized by supposedly distinctive and universal physical characteristics: no longer in technical use.
b. an arbitrary classification of modern humans, sometimes, esp. formerly, based on any or a combination of various physical characteristics, as skin color, facial form, or eye shape, and now frequently based on such genetic markers as blood groups.
c. a human population partially isolated reproductively from other populations, whose members share a greater degree of physical and genetic similarity with one another than with other humans.
4. a group of tribes or peoples forming an ethnic stock: the Slavic race.
5. any people united by common history, language, cultural traits, etc.: the Dutch race.
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jaja.. funny, thats the second time today that Califonio needed a definition handed to him.
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3. Anthropology. a. any of the traditional divisions of humankind, the commonest being the Caucasian, Mongoloid, and Negro, characterized by supposedly distinctive and universal physical characteristics: no longer in technical use.
Don't be a smart ass QMX, I'd expect such behavior from a 12 year old. You know what I was referring to.
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The overconfident and under brain powered
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Malcolm X said something to the effect that after he found out he was part white he learned to hate every last bit of it.


Please not that I do not agree completely with the Mexica movement. I enjoyed reading Quimixes post and agree with him on the MExica movement. I'm trying to see the positive side of things so they're aren't so bad because they can enlighten people to a certain extent and from there one can take a different road or something.

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^ when he evolved to become El Hajj Malik el Shabbaz, he no longer espoused or felt that way anymore. It was a chip he had on his shoulder until he went to Mecca
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I don't have any European Ancestry in me.

But for those that do have it. It's part of who you are wether you like it or not.
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^ just like SOME Chicanos who have African or American Indian ancestry but are either too ashamed, ignorant and full of self-hatred to accept this
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I accept my European ancestry because it's the reality.

I am not ignorant about it either. I have studied my white blood. I want to know who I am.

But I do not identify with it.

Why?

It's not that I have a disgust for Caucasians really. It's the historical context
of Caucasians dealing with the Natives that disgusts me.

It angers me.

It angers me as if my father had beaten my mother.
I would not mention him to my future children and would not care to bring him up.

But putting that aside.

I look at both cultures, both peoples and compare.

Both have wrongs and both have me in awe.

Neither one of them I am ashamed of.

However I do believe the Mongoloid has an edge over Caucasians.
And knowing that my Amerindian blood and heritage has almost been wiped off the face of the earth in its own land makes me want to preserve it.

Preserve that *EDGE*.

I am proud of my great Native blood.
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Nice words. But ya could have picked a better picture, lol.
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^^ Looks like Conan the Barbarian (played by Ahhhnold) in that pic...lol, sorry!


Well, as for me... I'm about as mutt as they come. Scott-Irish on my mom's side, and German-Spanish on my dad's side. Although on my dad's side there is some roots to the Taos Pueblo Natives, albeit small... (pretty cool to think I have some potential roots to the Anasazi )

Anyways, for the most part, I accept all of what I am. But growing up in Northern New Mexico, it's more of the culture there that I have come to embrace. And the culture there is very unique unto itself.
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^ actually, that's me in a past life time. lol

so why don't you see if you can register in your tribe?

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She just used the wrong word, i wasnt calling her a fool.
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^ actually, that's me in a past life time. lol

so why don't you see if you can register in your tribe?
LOL! Conan, you mean?

And nah... there really isn't much of it in the blood line. Dont you have to be a certain percentage?
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^ Yeah I was Conan the Barbarian in a past life :fierce: but now I'm just geeky ol Ralo El Dorado

different tribes have different criteria for blood quantum's. You should look into your tribes requisites. If you're allowed to enroll in your tribe, I think you get your own tribes passport to travel abroad as a representative of your tribe
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^^ Looks like Conan the Barbarian (played by Ahhhnold) in that pic...lol, sorry!
The painting was done by Boris Vallejo who is Peruvian.

The painting depicts South American Natives. You can see the Incan influences.

These kind of paintings usually are shown in a provocative manner.
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You know what I notice about these pictures in the calendar's? They always display a light-skinned women with Caucasian features.
That's because many of them are supposed to be Caucasians.

The one I posted was depicting Natives from South America.

And Native Americans were Dark to light brown to olive in color.

It depends on where they lived.
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No I do not reject as it is a part of me as well as the indian and the others that are mixed in me.

All of the cultures/heritages have much to offer. Would be dumb to reject part of yourself. You had no choice so roll with it. EHP
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Anyways, for the most part, I accept all of what I am. But growing up in Northern New Mexico, it's more of the culture there that I have come to embrace. And the culture there is very unique unto itself.
Yes, New Mexico has a very unique culture. I think a lot of Northern New Mexicans are mixed with European (Spanish and Basque) and Lebanese blood.

As for me, my father is a first generation Chicano raised in Southern New Mexico and his parents are from Monterrey, Nuevo Leon. Unfortunately, I am not sure of the bloodlines in Mexico. I hope to one day trace them.

My mother is Spanish/Apache and her family is from Northern New Mexico. In 2006, I traced our Apache blood direct to my great, great grandparents who were full-blooded Apache. I had the help of my Apache Elder in Yuma who knew I had Apache blood when he first met me years ago.

It is nice to know my Native roots because all of my life people always asked "what I was" and now I can tell them. I never looked like any of my female cousins on either side of my family. People always asked where I got my straight black hair, dark eyes and high cheekbones. I think the European blood comes through in my very light skin color.

It's all part of me and I accept it. I can't change it but truthfully, I embrace the Mexican and Apache sides of me more.
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^^ Oddly enough, The Apache used to attack Mexicans in New Mexico. Them and the Comanche.

As for me.. I have no clue where even my indigenous ancestors are from. My grandparents from both sides are basically migrants from different parts of Mexico who inhabited where they live now. My great grandmother from my dads looks pretty indigenous and my great grandfather hard dark skin with somewhat African features. And then my great grandmother from my fathers side making him my GREAT GREAT grandfather.. we have a picture of him and he sort of looks like hitler with his mustache lmao. Yet my grandmother had red hair when she was younger. On my mothers side everyone is light skinned one with blue eyes and dirty blonde hair and really look nothing indigenous at all.
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No I do not reject as it is a part of me as well as the indian and the others that are mixed in me.

All of the cultures/heritages have much to offer. Would be dumb to reject part of yourself. You had no choice so roll with it. EHP
have you read the Autobiography of Malcolm X yet? If you haven't, I highly recommend it and no, the watching the movie version of it by Spike Lee doesn't count as having read the book lol

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Yes, New Mexico has a very unique culture. I think a lot of Northern New Mexicans are mixed with European (Spanish and Basque) and Lebanese blood.

As for me, my father is a first generation Chicano raised in Southern New Mexico and his parents are from Monterrey, Nuevo Leon. Unfortunately, I am not sure of the bloodlines in Mexico. I hope to one day trace them.

My mother is Spanish/Apache and her family is from Northern New Mexico. In 2006, I traced our Apache blood direct to my great, great grandparents who were full-blooded Apache. I had the help of my Apache Elder in Yuma who knew I had Apache blood when he first met me years ago.

It is nice to know my Native roots because all of my life people always asked "what I was" and now I can tell them. I never looked like any of my female cousins on either side of my family. People always asked where I got my straight black hair, dark eyes and high cheekbones. I think the European blood comes through in my very light skin color.

It's all part of me and I accept it. I can't change it but truthfully, I embrace the Mexican and Apache sides of me more.
Very NIIIIIIIIIIIIICE!!!!!

I didn't kno you were Apache
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Linda Very NIIIIIIIIIIIIICE!!!!!

I didn't kno you were Apache
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