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how about merging the Ruben Salazar threads into one? He's being commemorated today
They're all different issues. This one is based on one of his articles.

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So basically a Chicano is neither a Mexican, nor an American. A sub-culture from the Mexican community born out of the civil rights movement - like the Black Panthers. I still don't know why these people apply the principles of the past, in today's world. It's completely different. I guess that's why the amount of Americans of Mexican descent who refer to themselves as Chicano is a dwindling number.
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I guess that's why the amount of Americans of Mexican descent who refer to themselves as Chicano is a dwindling number.
Yet you're on a Chicano website.

The reason why it's "dwindling" is bc you don't hear it in the mainstream.
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Yet you're on a Chicano website.

The reason why it's "dwindling" is bc you don't hear it in the mainstream.
Yet I am on a Chicano website.
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I still use ruben salazar's definition of a chicano to this day-a mexican/american with a non-anglo view of himself-except i would add "socially conscious" to that. Its funny that coco-nutz like these fool here reap the benefits of activists movements like the chicano movt. then turn around and bite the hand that gave to them-to bad they don't get treated like the mutz- they are. I go to utep where salazar graduated from and he's known but not as much a martyr of his caliber deserves-sometimes i have to be honest and wonder if its worth risking that much for an ideal-because unfortunetly people like this califundio reap the benefits-but they do it anyway.I haven't sacrificed that much but i saw a long time ago this activism thing brings-takes more than it gives and you need to be a true believer to do it-and sometimes the only reward is to your own conscious-not that, it shouldn't be enough but I think people like him deserved more!!!
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In your dreams, we are the fastest growing raza since 1988, dont ever forget it, if you can .
It is people like you who confuse the term "Raza" and make anti-illegal immigrant groups bag on Mexicans even more. You're using it in terms of "race" - Mexican is not a race in your definition. Chicano does NOT automatically equal Mexican, and vice versa. Most Mexicans who live in the U.S do not identify with the term. Although, what does that have to do with anything?
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Coming from a Non-Chicano , hiding behind a Chicano Identity to speak as if you could convince others by spinning the facts or the truths and how the majority of Chicanos think feel and believe...
give it a rest,,, white supremecy is ignorance at its best !
I spoke behind a chicano identity? Where did I call myself a Chicano?

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I know you are not who you say you are, and I know your name is not about what you represent of your personal ideals against the Chicano People.
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Moreover, you try to break the ties between Mexicanos and Chicanos and raza on any level, whether it is feelings, ideals, empathy, politics or basic fundamentals of human compassion to further the bond and unity in our communities.
No, I don't know much about Chicano ideals aside from what I read. They are Americanized Mexicans for the most part.
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you can convince yourself of the fantasies you might have of our people or raza.
lmfao, what the hell is that supposed to mean?
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but you are without any authority to speak on any Chicano's behalf.

with that said, you should pm a mod to delete your account , we can find other ways to make this site more interesting and can live without the drama of a gluton for punishment...
Delete my account? lmfao. You'd like that so you won't get owned as much

what is your real reason here Caley-oh?

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I dont see how your posts could be interesting enough to keep you around, I personally could live without and find other ways to keep this site interesting. What a tool.
I don't see how YOUR posts are interesting period. You ALWAYS go off-topic in every thread and somehow, find a way to talk trash about Republicans every chance you get.

Hell, even QMX made a negative thread about you in the subscribers paradise
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I still use ruben salazar's definition of a chicano to this day-a mexican/american with a non-anglo view of himself-except i would add "socially conscious" to that.
This is the only definition that makes sense to me based on my feelings and from all the interactions I have with people of Mexican descent.

Let's use that QB Sanchez as en example. I like to call him a Chicano, but in reality only he knows. He could just be an American of Mexican descent. I have a niece who could care less about anything that is not North American.
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you run and hide when there is no one to save you or help you debate or discuss, so you flame and then run, then whine and rant, while others put you in your place from time to time, because they get tired of schooling you in Chicanism-oh O.O
You go off for weeks at a time - yeah, I'm the one hiding. I'm always here. The force of Chicanismo is not as strong here as with some of your butt buddies on Chicano org.

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Whats funny is when you run out of a legitimate defense, you use
what you do to others thinking you can turn others against their own kind for the same bs u do.
U need to get a clue and a life. if anyone reads your posts you can see you are off topic 99 percent of the time, you hijack threads like you are left out of the conversation??? go figure.
Yeah I do go off-topic some times, to respond to YOUR off-topic posts.


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you out did yourself here and most other chicano forums.
now you can go tell your friends tha Chicanos are pretty smart
good to see you get busted , while you still try to play like people like your type here!
You guys are no smarter than the red necks I deal with on a daily basis on Stormfront. In fact, its almost quite boring there since you cannot debate their racist ideals and psuedo science with logical facts.

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allover, after you got busted pretending, youposted this pic and then tried to act chicano in many posts and tried to convert others to anti chicano ideals and views against their own kind....
ur a fraud! even your name is of based upon making others to believe you are of Chicano descent.

Quit straying from the post and answer my question. When have you answered my question about the Racist laws that target Mexicans specifically? When are you going to show me those?
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are you dniffing bus seats to get high?
I answered this before and beat you again , what do you want attention or another case of chicano whoop ass, i think you just like being owned by chicanos, you love it....
If anyone goes and doesn't answer you , its because they got more important things to do, than babysit you or school you over and over to get you to comprehend or accept the facts you are ignorant to see or believe.
You win on your own account. Leaving the forum and not responding - that is not winning. Having more important things to do is on your own account, and no one even knows if that's true.

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IT IS OBVIOUS, what your real intent is and what your kind is doing here!
you are trying to get Chicanos fight amongst themselves to take away from their strength in numbers and by infiltrating their unity in their community!
Strength in numbers? lmfao, there is no numbers.


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I am glad to expose you and your people on that site, you guys must conjer up some really dumb things to amuse yourselves and entertain yourselves with all this superior mentality bullshit! which is all it is.
You exposed me? When?

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you are a joke, and a white supremist , i knew you were!
damn , and ur dumb , THE facts are in!
you think people dont read your radikkkal rants against the social norm of the Chicano movement???
We the Chicano People have spoken, & you are losing your sanity trying to debate any of us!
moreover, your use of a Chicano historical name , is a front, like the stormfront neo~skinhead forum you came from.
What a loser! lmfao ur IT
White supremacist? lmfao. That's a strong word - even on stormfront. Most of the people there don't even call them selves supremacists. I already got banned once there for being an "anti-racist". Who gives a shit about the social norm of Chicanos - the chicano movement accomplished its task in the civil rights era. Now its full of indiginazi's. For christ sake, you called Edward James Olmos the father of the Chicano movement LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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like i said before, everytime you get beat you switch the issue and change the subject, and it is off topic to be you, but we dont mind your mindless chatter.
Especially being in a white mainstream america that is losing its control of using its failed morals and policies of being supreme and mere mediocre.
You really beat me? Okay then, I've been asking you to show me the racist laws that target Mexicans - you still haven't.
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that was an intelligent arguement , i can hear you quiver with with fear when you debate me and see your bottom lip tremble while shaking your fist at the world.
If anyone goes off topic is you, i could go around and point them all out, but everyone already knows you are a spin doctor, trying to shift the blame while rallying for Chicano support and bad mouthing them out the side of your neck.
I quiver? You can really tell over the internet?


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this was changed to what i really said to suit your benefit, how self serving and funny you ran out of things to say to defend yourself.

so you decide to use my words against me? your kind are redneck radical racists, and whats even more funny , is you made a freudian slip, about being from the forum of skinheads, and it being boring!
good job ! you show you are really intelligent... like your Black President tells you! how transparent and typical!
hows that for logikkkal and transparent...
Yeah, its pretty boring there. It's full of people like you.


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how many times have i answered you??? dont you get it? you need cue cards and a dictionary or a tutor?
its real simple...
go back and read them and you will understand.
I will not explain it to you or break it down to you anymore , you are selectively blind to the truth and ignore it when others give you the facts..
Racist laws - show me them. You have not answered me that.

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you are ignorant to the facts! simple as that neo~boi
Seems like your ignoring the facts.
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Racist laws - show me them. You have not answered me that.
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go back and read over and over and over and over and over until you can comphend , or pray for understanding and wisdom....



Seems like your ignoring the facts.
Answering everything but the question is no good. Answer the question, then I will proceed to debunk everything you said. It really seems that YOU'RE ignoring the facts.
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Someone has the video from the PBS series is on youtube:

http://youtu.be/2QBtp5jrl-I

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Someone has the video from the PBS series is on youtube:

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I didnt know who he was until I saw this thread & googled it
But now I do
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I didnt know who he was until I saw this thread & googled it
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That's good to know.
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Land of the free America, where freedom of speech is a tool used to identify troublemakers.
Amen, carnal and those that fall in line, drink the punch, brown nose and call it patriotism, sing the jingo, scream in the echo chamber-get patted on the back and get branded " good and true americans" and get sent back to their-dead end, limited prospects-jobs and the existent power structure remains unscathed.

and those that purposefully disagree, set themselves apart -purposefully-by calling themselves by CHICANOS bear the brunt of fighting for the rights all peoples will enjoy- but few will ever TRULY appreciate. People of purpose, people of worth, dead, when they could have lived-lived good, long menaingful lives.

and some of our People- wont even read their PINCHI story-I ASK MYSELF IS THAT THE LEGACY OF THEIR STRUGGLE! That all their successes-just led to complacency,apathy and conformity in an generation that guises it in "pragmatism" and personal "success"!
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I was just a kid when Mr. Salazar was murdered by the racist pigs. I was a snot nose, but my sisters were stone Pachucas. I dont watch edward james whats his face. I do watch PBS but didn't see the stuff on Salazar. However it is you learned of him, the spirit of Mr. Salazar must be kept alive. His education and ability to articulate reality scared the hell out of the gabachos. Ruben Salazar was silenced in "land of the free" America.

Land of the free America, where freedom of speech is a tool used to identify troublemakers.
"Edward James whats his face?" I think you mean Edward James Olmos, a great chicano american.
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"Edward James whats his face?" I think you mean Edward James Olmos, a great chicano american.
are there chicanos that arent 'american"?
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^^ A Mexican born who immigrated to the United States "illegally" and learned about the Chicano movement and identifies with it?
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^^ A Mexican born who immigrated to the United States "illegally" and learned about the Chicano movement and identifies with it?
I'd say that person was now an 'american'. Regardless of legal status.
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