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Old 12-10-2008
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hmm.. in a way.. i see that side of it... regarding those who might use gov aid (which is fine if it's needed IMO... & single ppl use it too). And even say if you apply for lower rates on elec, water, etc..based on family size... it's just a lower rate.. & not really tax dollars...

but as far as tax returns ... they are based on what one makes anways... & you only get back from what was taken away... so if anything it's not anyone elses tax dollars.

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Thats true, it is THEIR OWN TAX DOLLARS. And the kids are just a write off so to speak.
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Pretty much.. just the way some business owners write off personal shit as company writes offs...

this is why I always do the long form... & itemize everything... thank god for my tax guy...
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WTF you mean kinda?????????????
Ummm.. ok, sooooo not kinda? *ahem* lol.. j/p Cali ignored my post anyways.. I've been rejected..
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i didn't ignore it... i just... bypassed it..
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rejected twice in the same thread.. damn!

Thats a good incentive for not having kids.. No rejection... lol


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You seem to confusing me with someone who is complaining. I just posted a conversation i heard on the radio and thought i bring it up here. I am arguing the other side because no one here seems to agree with it.

I far from complain. I understand needs and situations. I am not privilaged and know plenty of single parents THO i agree on some parts that Women get off more and get paid for it. I know it is how things are.
Sorry Nelio, didn't mean to skip your post. I don't think your complaining actually.. I'm refering in more general terms but directed to you since you posted the question. I do understand where the topic is from... And its a good topic, IMO.

Honestly, I don't see where women get more time off and get paid for it. Thats not the case with companies I've worked for but if you know of any, please kindly PM me the ones that DO give women more time off for being mothers and I'll come live in Texas! As far as I know, most companies dish out sick/vac time according to length of time you've been with the company. Generally speaking where I'm from its around 2 weeks for sick time and 2 weeks for vac. Sick time you can take for a sick child, and its paid. BUT what happens if 2 weeks a year isn't enough to go around between yourself and caring for your dependants? Once you use your sick time its gone. Most companies I know do not replenish your sick time because you have kids. In my experience you can take the time off, but its not paid.
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Should there be any? Why or why not? If yes, what should they be? Thoughts?


No. It doesn't matter anyway because the infant mortality rate is high in the U.S. Population can be controlled through education but at this moment it is being controlled by eugenics,racism, and biological warfare. Go and have all the children you want it is your right and I'm sure it won't be for long.
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Honestly, I don't see where women get more time off and get paid for it. Thats not the case with companies I've worked for but if you know of any, please kindly PM me the ones that DO give women more time off for being mothers and I'll come live in Texas! As far as I know, most companies dish out sick/vac time according to length of time you've been with the company. Generally speaking where I'm from its around 2 weeks for sick time and 2 weeks for vac. Sick time you can take for a sick child, and its paid. BUT what happens if 2 weeks a year isn't enough to go around between yourself and caring for your dependants? Once you use your sick time its gone. Most companies I know do not replenish your sick time because you have kids. In my experience you can take the time off, but its not paid.
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^^^ Some companies do offer it, but you'd have to burn your vacation or comp time that you have accumulated. Or you can just not get paid while you off.
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^^^ Some companies do offer it, but you'd have to burn your vacation or comp time that you have accumulated. Or you can just not get paid while you off.
Companies offer women more time off?
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^^^ Not all of them, but yeah some do give that option. I know when I worked for the state Prison system they did have that option, but then they had reduced it to only maternity leave of six weeks after giving birth.

It's not a lot of them that offer it anymore. Now companies want you to use your own time or maybe take a sick leave if possible.
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lol..

ok... here are a few "incentives";

you don't have to feed anyone other than yourself.
you don't have to put clothes on anyone's back, other than yourself.
you don't have to provide a roof over anyone's head, other than yourself.
you don't have to provide medical ins for anyone, other than yourself.
you don't have to pay for babysitting/daycare.
you don't have to pay a co-pay for a doctor visit if your already sick.
you don't have to pay child support if & when you split from your significant other.

& best of all... you don't have to deal with someone whom you could possibly end up hating, for the rest of your life. (the best things in life are free lol)

i'm sure there's many more "incentives" others can throw out there.
LOL.

My company gives 6 weeks maternity leave for natural or 8 weeks for a ceasarean birth. They also give 2 weeks to new fathers and adoptive parents.

The sick time is the same for males and females regardless if they are parents.
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i believe the state of california gives women an additional 6 weeks or so... aside from paid maternity leave.. but those additional weeks are unpaid & you can take them @ any point within a year of having birth. It's basically just to gaurantee your job, in case you do want some more time off.
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You call me a hippy lol

ever hear of nuclear power plants?
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ever hear of nuclear power plants?

No, no I haven't
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agree with nelio i should get something for thinking about my decision to wait or not to have kids at all...well i guess i do FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOM to spend my money on dumb shit rather than diapers or food.
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i believe the state of california gives women an additional 6 weeks or so... aside from paid maternity leave.. but those additional weeks are unpaid & you can take them @ any point within a year of having birth. It's basically just to gaurantee your job, in case you do want some more time off.
Family Medical Leave of Absence.

From what I've heard lately though, there were talks of reducing the amount of time given.

Not sure though.
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Family Medical Leave of Absence.

From what I've heard lately though, there were talks of reducing the amount of time given.

Not sure though.
FMLA isn't just for parents though. That could be used to take care of a sick child, parent, spouse, or yourself. Of course, it has to be a serious health condition... not a cold or some bs. haha

I only know this cause my friend was just off because of a surgery she had done. Chick doesn't have kids.
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MY company gives you 12 weeks of FMLA, unpaid of course within the first 2 years of childs life/ or adoption
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Browsing thru some old topics and found this one.

I do believe that there are companies in China that offer incentives to their employees for having 2 kids or less. Not sure what the incentives are, but that might have been some of the basis for that radio programs topic. In other words those companies have a two pronged angle: one, to keep employees more focused on work as to having an employees attention diverted to a huge tribe, and two, to help control the population or shall we say over population.
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agree with nelio i should get something for thinking about my decision to wait or not to have kids at all...well i guess i do FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOM to spend my money on dumb shit rather than diapers or food.
I wouldn't buy diapers. Just use a cloth of some sort.
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nah fuck that, use diapers, throw them away, then you aint gotta wash shitty rags.
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they pay taxes, then they should have that option.
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Uh, let me think about this.
I don't really consider the incentives ya'll listed for having children as necessarily incentives. I honestly don't think they are.
And as to having incentives for not having children, I don't think we need any either. I think people should keep having children before social security runs out. but that is another topic all together, and I have to keep studying.
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