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Before the age of the internet, there was a whiteuprising,

it was called the KKK. I know you and your family are sorry you weren't able to join.
Yeah man, who wouldn't want to join a club who wear bed sheets and run around at night?
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didnt the kkk get that idea from spain?
you'd feel right at home californio!
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didnt the kkk get that idea from spain?
you'd feel right at home californio!
Yep they did. And to think they're anti-catholic..
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Research by a Valparaiso University geography professor and his students on the creation of Kankakee Sand Islands of Northwest Indiana is lending support to evidence that the first humans to settle the Americas came from Europe, a discovery that overturns decades of classroom lessons that nomadic tribes from Asia crossed a Bering Strait land-ice bridge. Valparaiso is a member of the Council on Undergraduate Research.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0701193203.htm
The 'evidence' was some odd similarity of arrow heads between ancient Europe and the Americas.

Hardly leading evidence.

There is a shiny object on the ground, you might want to go chase it.



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but please show this post to all those members from Mexica-Movement site who i bet all my money are really workin' for the u.s. government. 'cause if you notice they never, ever talk about EZLN, never about north Native Americans, never about Free TradeAgreement, and countless other things, and notice how they loooooove to split hate big time. yes, they do speak some truth but they used hatred to spread their message (u.s. government uses divine and conquor, get ppl hatin' each other instead of seein' the real picture)
The Mexica Movement is only so big, they can't carry the load on everything.

How much funding do they have?
How many core members do they have?

At least they are doing something. They are not the end all either.

quit demonising them, they have done more than most.

And nobody is perfect.


Saying they are sent from the goverment is ridiculous.

First you try to exagerate a false claim of early European settlers, then you make a bogus claim on the Mexica Movement.

Not a good start to being seen as reliable or even worthy of an audience.


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the ppl that invaded our lands were mercs, okay, and they were back by corporations that later call themselves colonies, and were bless by the Catholic Church aka The Roman Catholic Empire. but you were hear Mexica Movement go on and on it was the Spanish, it was the Spanish, but before 1492 Spain was ruled by Moors for 800 years, and then 1491 the Christian armies took Spain by forced and murder all jews, christians and muslims that did not accept the Catholic Rule.
So these 'mercs' were not involved with the innocent Spaniards either.

Columbus first went to Italy for funding then went to Spain.
If it wasn't the Spanish it would have been another country.

Exploration was funded by no more than imperialist monarchies.
Not some 'merc' conspiracy.

Human exploration and conquest is as old as human fighting for wild game.

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so now think about it, 800 years is longer than United States been around, and how many spanish ppl you think got some black blood in them? but we were told it was dirty, white ppl, which means they were part of the christian army so it wasn't Spanish ppl, it was mercs from many different european countries that came and committed genocide. even colombus wasn't a spanish dude.
Now you defend the Spaniards saying they had nothing to do with mass genocide, then you start sneaking in the Afro centric crap along with
your petty list of literature at the end of your post with Van Sertima's black olmec book.

the MOORS are not and were not BLACK. The Moors are Arab and Berber people.

Africa is a continent, not everyone native to it are black.

The Egyptians were not black ( which you probably believe) nor were/ are the Moors.


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just read into your history, read alot, and remember what you learn, and keep readin', and let your history teach you what really happen
That's if you read correct history, not eccentric/new aged/ far left 'interesting' tales like Van Sertima's book.


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and also read the book A Little Matter of Genocide
and People's History of United States
and They Came Before Colombus
I use to have 'They Came before Columbus'

What a misleading joke.

Also, I forgot to mention, about yourt little 'evidence'
website.

There is quite a few articles still pointing to the Bering Strait theory.

Moron.

That journal is just that, a jourrnal.

A journal of collected theories in a think tank.

Nothing engraved in stone.
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The 'evidence' was some odd similarity of arrow heads between ancient Europe and the Americas.

Hardly leading evidence.

There is a shiny object on the ground, you might want to go chase it.





The Mexica Movement is only so big, they can't carry the load on everything.

How much funding do they have?
How many core members do they have?

At least they are doing something. They are not the end all either.

quit demonising them, they have done more than most.

And nobody is perfect.


Saying they are sent from the goverment is ridiculous.

First you try to exagerate a false claim of early European settlers, then you make a bogus claim on the Mexica Movement.

Not a good start to being seen as reliable or even worthy of an audience.




So these 'mercs' were not involved with the innocent Spaniards either.

Columbus first went to Italy for funding then went to Spain.
If it wasn't the Spanish it would have been another country.

Exploration was funded by no more than imperialist monarchies.
Not some 'merc' conspiracy.

Human exploration and conquest is as old as human fighting for wild game.



Now you defend the Spaniards saying they had nothing to do with mass genocide, then you start sneaking in the Afro centric crap along with
your petty list of literature at the end of your post with Van Sertima's black olmec book.

the MOORS are not and were not BLACK. The Moors are Arab and Berber people.

Africa is a continent, not everyone native to it are black.

The Egyptians were not black ( which you probably believe) nor were/ are the Moors.




That's if you read correct history, not eccentric/new aged/ far left 'interesting' tales like Van Sertima's book.




I use to have 'They Came before Columbus'

What a misleading joke.

Also, I forgot to mention, about yourt little 'evidence'
website.

There is quite a few articles still pointing to the Bering Strait theory.

Moron.

That journal is just that, a jourrnal.

A journal of collected theories in a think tank.

Nothing engraved in stone.
The 'evidence' was some odd similarity of arrow heads between ancient Europe and the Americas.

which means they're alike, those arrow heads can't be found anyone else, not in africa, or asia. but in europe and america they're very alike.

also that so called theory we cross a bridge isn't true 'cause that make the arrival of the native americans 12,000 years ago but science has already proven that ain't true 'cause we've found things in america alot older than that like the foot prints they found in mexico that are over 40,000 years old.

what are the mexica movement doing besides brainwashin' ppl into hatin'? yes, u should speak about what crimes were done to the people but they made whole site sayin' whites this and whites that over and over again which means they're doing their divine and conquor speech to fool ppl into hatin' instead of thinkin' and learnin' knowledge.

the u.s. government is known for startin' fake groups like them to speak only hate to fool the ppl into wantin' to kill and start murderin' riots.

and NO, THEY HAVE NOT DONE MORE THAN MOST.

EZLN AND THE NATIVE AMERICAN MOVEMENT HAVE THE MOST atleast EZLN is standin' up to the New World Order unlike the mexica movement.

lol no, first colombus went to england and then portgual and then finally Spain while says the school book texts. colombus happen to get approval after the christian armies took over spain, portugal and parts of france that were under Moors for 800 years.

many christian soldiers that weren't from spain claim themselves as spainish after the take over and then went with colombus to the land they discover in the old libaries in Spain that moors have kept.

arabs were once black ppl and alot ppl in the middle east are still black. the word Moor actually means Black People. "In ancient times all Africans were called Ethiopians or Kushites. And in Middle Ages the Africans were called Moors. The word Moor literally means Black, so the Moorish people were the Black people. In medieval times the name Moor was not restricted to the inhabitants of Morocco, but it was customary to refer to all Africans as Moors. "

where you think that racist name "sand niggas" for arabs came from?

"The Egyptians were not black" lol yes they were black in ancient times, the bible even proves it, when mary and joseph went into hidin' they took jesus into Egypt which was called Kemet which means "Black Land"

you might say jesus wasn't black, but the bible also proves he was black, in the bible it says his hair was like a lamb and his skin was color of coal.

even the first europeans and asians (the human beings of course) were black skinn people before going through evolotution to adpat to their climate. it took the first europeans 20,000 years to become white skin color people.

even the cro-magon people came from africa

caucasians as a race did not appear in europe until about twenty to thirty thousand years after the arrival of the first africans who are the aboriginals of europe.
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also that so called theory we cross a bridge isn't true 'cause that make the arrival of the native americans 12,000 years ago but science has already proven that ain't true 'cause we've found things in america alot older than that like the foot prints they found in mexico that are over 40,000 years old.
As i was reading the Forward and the 1st chapter of American Holocaust it touched on that a bit. How for a long while, yes that was believed. But now many are seeing that the Bering Straits more then a piece of ice, but more like actual LANDMASS, complete with fertile land and game and fresh waters. That it was there for thousands upon thousands of yrs. That more then likely people trickled her long before 12,00 yrs, since the Straits were there for more then just 12,000 yrs. That tribes and communities, probably made the straits home for a bit before moving on. That they moved on slowly but surely, because of the climate started to change over time, as well as with the rising water and the like.

Anyways, to much to quote and i am not gifted enough to put it in a fully summary mode. Maybe i will take a pic of the page and post it up, so it can be read easier then me explaining.
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which means they're alike, those arrow heads can't be found anyone else, not in africa, or asia. but in europe and america they're very alike.
Which means nothing. A simple similarity in this case is just the work of the fundamentals of engineering.

The arrow head is a basic,simple, primitive weapon that does not hold many variables in its making to propel through air and puncture.

It's not like the manufacturing of steel weapons.

If you look hard enough at nearly everything in ancient design you can make
parallels and accusations of cross culture between continents.

A huntch in a scientific journal is for the think tank and nothing more.



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also that so called theory we cross a bridge isn't true 'cause that make the arrival of the native americans 12,000 years ago but science has already proven that ain't true 'cause we've found things in america alot older than that like the foot prints they found in mexico that are over 40,000 years old.
Has it ever occurred to you that no other remains but Mongoloid remains of antiquity have been founds in the Americas?

The Kennewickman is not even an exception as it was never proven to be Caucasoid, only the that it looked like the guy from star trek.

The fact is, Mongoloids were here first by whatever means they came.
Maybe through island hoping like in the route via the Pacific as evidence from
Pacific Islanders and Easter Island.



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what are the mexica movement doing besides brainwashin' ppl into hatin'? yes, u should speak about what crimes were done to the people but they made whole site sayin' whites this and whites that over and over again which means they're doing their divine and conquor speech to fool ppl into hatin' instead of thinkin' and learnin' knowledge.
Moron, divide and conquer? They are not conquering anyone. They might say they want the land back but they are mostly separatists who are identifying the fact of European colonization.

They are teaching people facts. They are spreading knowledge about Mexicans and historical injustice.

Like I said no one is perfect. They are not perfect, but they are doing something.

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the u.s. government is known for startin' fake groups like them to speak only hate to fool the ppl into wantin' to kill and start murderin' riots.
Because the Mexica Movement shows a dislike for European racist mindset they must be operating under the wing of trhe goverment? lol

You are looking very suspicious as I hjave said before.

You come here and try to discredit and destroy the integrity of Native Americans by laying claims whites were here first. Then you are persistent in making the acts of European colonists look like it it was nothing, especially the Spaniards.

Then you post reading material about black olmecs LOL!


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and NO, THEY HAVE NOT DONE MORE THAN MOST.

EZLN AND THE NATIVE AMERICAN MOVEMENT HAVE THE MOST atleast EZLN is standin' up to the New World Order unlike the mexica movement.
Compared to alot of people they have done more than most.

EZLN is in MEXICO and is good but is hardly visible to the rest of the world.
They operate under restraints from Mexican oppression.

The Mexica Movement is doing their thing and AIM and everyone else theirs.
The Mexica Movement has challenged anti immigration and even debated Lou Dobbs.

They can't do everything and like I said, how much rescources do they have?
Who knows.

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arabs were once black ppl and alot ppl in the middle east are still black. the word Moor actually means Black People. "In ancient times all Africans were called Ethiopians or Kushites. And in Middle Ages the Africans were called Moors. The word Moor literally means Black, so the Moorish people were the Black people. In medieval times the name Moor was not restricted to the inhabitants of Morocco, but it was customary to refer to all Africans as Moors. "
Arabs were not once black people. The original people of the middle east were negrito's like in Asia.

The Paupa Newguineans are decendants of NEGRITOS.

Archaic race of humans that evolved into the newer races.

People didn't come out of Africa like Blacks you see today then became blondes and Mongoloids through environment.

The first humans from Africa to spread out were racial templates to the 3 main races of today.

The Blacks you see in the Middle East today are religious migrants and their descendants from the spread of Islam and slavery.

Immigration is not only an phenomenon of the USA.

Now the MOORS were not black, again they were/are Arabs and Berbers.

Africa is a continent that is not exclusive to black people.

And you can't equate the term 'black' to describe people to be the nick name for their racial makeup.

'black' in history alot of the time was used to identify people with dark features like black hair or anything that is not prevalent amongst whites.

The Maoris were called 'BLACK' at one time because of this.

So were/are the Australian Aboriginals.


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where you think that racist name "sand niggas" for arabs came from?
Thats a term to degrade people. It's slang and not based on any scientific observation and racial truth.

It's a lampoon on their dark skin and the desert of the Middle East.

Like the term 'wetback' not all Mexicans cross the border swimming the Rio Grande on their backs.

It's a nasty play on those who swam in the river to get here.

These terms are used to blanket an entire group by picking on the what is considered the worst of them.


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"The Egyptians were not black" lol yes they were black in ancient times, the bible even proves it, when mary and joseph went into hidin' they took jesus into Egypt which was called Kemet which means "Black Land"

you might say jesus wasn't black, but the bible also proves he was black, in the bible it says his hair was like a lamb and his skin was color of coal.
The Egyptians had absorbed blacks and took slaves from Nubia.
They even differentiated themselves from The Black Nubians in historical depections of themselves.



You can look at Dozens of Egyptian art and see they are not and did not even consider themselves Black.

As far As Jesus goes, He wasn't black. He was a typical looking Jew of the day.

I remember the bible had a description of him but I don't recall were.
But I do know it never described him as being black or even black as a lump of coal.

Besides This doesn't even matter unless you are a Christian.
Even for historical references since the bible has history.

You can't use this argument about blacks in the bible unless someone
believes in the religion in the first place.



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even the first europeans and asians (the human beings of course) were black skinn people before going through evolotution to adpat to their climate. it took the first europeans 20,000 years to become white skin color people.

even the cro-magon people came from Africa

caucasians as a race did not appear in europe until about twenty to thirty thousand years after the arrival of the first africans who are the aboriginals of europe.
Who cares if they came from Africa. Africa does not mean *BLACK*

The original humans from Africa to spread out all over the world like those 'black' Asians are *NEGRITOS*

Yes black in color with similar hair but a different race than the blacks you see in the city today.

I bet you are trying to make it seem they were like blacks of today or the equivalent.

Like I said before about your attitude on Europeans and Native Americans.

You are destroying the integrity.

And toss in some Afro centric mess with it.

Discrediting Indigenous people of the Americas even further.

Seems like you are trying to mask it all by being a tad bit sensitive to Indigenous interests just enoughto cover yourself.

You seem to want to get Mexicans away from their Indigenous roots.
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Which means nothing. A simple similarity in this case is just the work of the fundamentals of engineering.

The arrow head is a basic,simple, primitive weapon that does not hold many variables in its making to propel through air and puncture.

It's not like the manufacturing of steel weapons.

If you look hard enough at nearly everything in ancient design you can make
parallels and accusations of cross culture between continents.

A huntch in a scientific journal is for the think tank and nothing more.





Has it ever occurred to you that no other remains but Mongoloid remains of antiquity have been founds in the Americas?

The Kennewickman is not even an exception as it was never proven to be Caucasoid, only the that it looked like the guy from star trek.

The fact is, Mongoloids were here first by whatever means they came.
Maybe through island hoping like in the route via the Pacific as evidence from
Pacific Islanders and Easter Island.


Moron, divide and conquer? They are not conquering anyone. They might say they want the land back but they are mostly separatists who are identifying the fact of European colonization.

They are teaching people facts. They are spreading knowledge about Mexicans and historical injustice.

Like I said no one is perfect. They are not perfect, but they are doing something.



Because the Mexica Movement shows a dislike for European racist mindset they must be operating under the wing of trhe goverment? lol

You are looking very suspicious as I hjave said before.

You come here and try to discredit and destroy the integrity of Native Americans by laying claims whites were here first. Then you are persistent in making the acts of European colonists look like it it was nothing, especially the Spaniards.

Then you post reading material about black olmecs LOL!




Compared to alot of people they have done more than most.

EZLN is in MEXICO and is good but is hardly visible to the rest of the world.
They operate under restraints from Mexican oppression.

The Mexica Movement is doing their thing and AIM and everyone else theirs.
The Mexica Movement has challenged anti immigration and even debated Lou Dobbs.

They can't do everything and like I said, how much rescources do they have?
Who knows.



Arabs were not once black people. The original people of the middle east were negrito's like in Asia.

The Paupa Newguineans are decendants of NEGRITOS.

Archaic race of humans that evolved into the newer races.

People didn't come out of Africa like Blacks you see today then became blondes and Mongoloids through environment.

The first humans from Africa to spread out were racial templates to the 3 main races of today.

The Blacks you see in the Middle East today are religious migrants and their descendants from the spread of Islam and slavery.

Immigration is not only an phenomenon of the USA.

Now the MOORS were not black, again they were/are Arabs and Berbers.

Africa is a continent that is not exclusive to black people.

And you can't equate the term 'black' to describe people to be the nick name for their racial makeup.

'black' in history alot of the time was used to identify people with dark features like black hair or anything that is not prevalent amongst whites.

The Maoris were called 'BLACK' at one time because of this.

So were/are the Australian Aboriginals.

Thats a term to degrade people. It's slang and not based on any scientific observation and racial truth.

It's a lampoon on their dark skin and the desert of the Middle East.

Like the term 'wetback' not all Mexicans cross the border swimming the Rio Grande on their backs.

It's a nasty play on those who swam in the river to get here.

These terms are used to blanket an entire group by picking on the what is considered the worst of them.


The Egyptians had absorbed blacks and took slaves from Nubia.
They even differentiated themselves from The Black Nubians in historical depections of themselves.



You can look at Dozens of Egyptian art and see they are not and did not even consider themselves Black.

As far As Jesus goes, He wasn't black. He was a typical looking Jew of the day.

I remember the bible had a description of him but I don't recall were.
But I do know it never described him as being black or even black as a lump of coal.

Besides This doesn't even matter unless you are a Christian.
Even for historical references since the bible has history.

You can't use this argument about blacks in the bible unless someone
believes in the religion in the first place.


Who cares if they came from Africa. Africa does not mean *BLACK*

The original humans from Africa to spread out all over the world like those 'black' Asians are *NEGRITOS*

Yes black in color with similar hair but a different race than the blacks you see in the city today.

I bet you are trying to make it seem they were like blacks of today or the equivalent.

Like I said before about your attitude on Europeans and Native Americans.

You are destroying the integrity.

And toss in some Afro centric mess with it.

Discrediting Indigenous people of the Americas even further.

Seems like you are trying to mask it all by being a tad bit sensitive to Indigenous interests just enoughto cover yourself.

You seem to want to get Mexicans away from their Indigenous roots.
no, every arrow was made different by other cultures. you don't see any clovis points in africa do you?

Kennewickman was siezed by the federal government who stop a scienist from lookin' into it's dna. it did have a spear tip that used thousands of years before any european

r u talkin' about patrick stewart? the one they say look like kennwickman? actually the kennwickman looks more like Patrick Ewing instead, with his jaw, cheekbones, and eyesocket. the shape of the skull is similar to Negroid's people.

ppl keep sayin' they came from asia too so they can robb Native Americans their right to the land. but we actually have alot more in common with africa 'cause of our pryminds and mounds. i speak more about this later

indigious ppl of easter island were red hair, blonde hair, blue eyes and white skin, and they had things similar to the indians of south america

you don't know the meanin' inside the words "divine and conquor" it means to divine the ppl in order to conquor your ideas. and they've done that. just the government has done with poor whites against black ppl and mexicans against black ppl.

they're teachin' ppl the wrong way into knowin' what happen to our ppl. you don't see churchill sayin' shit like they do or the EZLN. mexica movement speak more like the kkk.

i never said whites were here first but whites were here long before colombus ever came, and native americans did go to america before 1492.

they dont' challege anti-immgration, they are part of cycle to make our people fight with poor or middle class whites while the United States and Mexico begin their North America Union. but the ppl in EZLN speak up how NAFTA is destroyin' mexico and america's ppl.

do you see anythin' about the north america union on mexicamovement site? no u don't.

lol they can't do anything, but how hard can it be to write about the north america union? look at who they're pointin' the finger at DISNEY of all ppl, not the u.s. government or Mexico who is controlled by the 13 families like Rockerfeller.

yes the nubia ppl were alot darker than eyptian but that doesn't mean they weren't black skin.

yes arabs were once black ppl, where you think they came from?

no, the blacks you see in arab countries today are arabs that been there for thousands of years.

the moors were black people.

ppl's skin color in north asia and europe changed 'cause of evolution. but look at the ppl in india or in austrilia they're black as night.

the indigenous ppl of austrilia are still black

the first jews were black just like jesus was black

that's why alexander blew the nose off that strucature in kemet 'cause one way you can tell a black person is by his nose

well you need to read that part in the bible again

i want mexicans to get away from indigenous root? lol no, i simply accept the fact europeans, asians, and africans did come to america before colombus came but i believe native americans were born here literaly like blacks were born in africa.

u probably actually think aztecs were the name of the ppl in mexico
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i want mexicans to get away from indigenous root? lol no, i simply accept the fact europeans, asians, and africans did come to america before colombus came but i believe native americans were born here literaly like blacks were born in africa.
Even though there is scientific evidence that life did indeed originate in Africa?
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no, every arrow was made different by other cultures. you don't see any clovis points in africa do you?
First of all learn how to *QUOTE*

So people don't have to keep scrolling up to compare what they said to what you said.

Now re read what I said about arrowheads.

it's a no brainer.

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r u talkin' about patrick stewart? the one they say look like kennwickman? actually the kennwickman looks more like Patrick Ewing instead, with his jaw, cheekbones, and eyesocket. the shape of the skull is similar to Negroid's people.
LOL!!! are you serious?

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ppl keep sayin' they came from asia too so they can robb Native Americans their right to the land. but we actually have alot more in common with africa 'cause of our pryminds and mounds. i speak more about this later
They came across the bering strait from *ASIA* they are Mongoloid.

Do you know what *MONGOLOID* is?

Native Americans have more in common with Asians than Africans.

They cluster with Koreans and Siberia people not Sub Saharan Blacks.

Amerindian Engineering is nothing like those in Africa. Unless you count
the use of fundamentalism of step pyramids in pursuit of height and functionality.

A universal law doesn't mean they are cousins.

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indigious ppl of easter island were red hair, blonde hair, blue eyes and white skin, and they had things similar to the indians of south america
The population of Easter Island is Mongoloids not blondes with blue eyes or of that nature.

And what does them having things in common with South America have to do with anything?. They probably traded or were settled by them.

Big deal.


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you don't know the meanin' inside the words "divine and conquor" it means to divine the ppl in order to conquor your ideas. and they've done that. just the government has done with poor whites against black ppl and mexicans against black ppl.

they're teachin' ppl the wrong way into knowin' what happen to our ppl. you don't see churchill sayin' shit like they do or the EZLN. mexica movement speak more like the kkk.
logic at it's worst. ^^

I know the meaning of *DIVIDE AND CONQUER* not 'divine and conquer'

The Mexica Movement has a dislike with some people and now they are the equivalent of the KKK lol and are run by the goverment. LOL

Donkeys have breast milk so do Humans I guess we are all part donkey then right?

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i never said whites were here first but whites were here long before colombus ever came, and native americans did go to america before 1492.
Thanks for stating the obvious, that Native Americans came before 1492.

(please this guy should do stand up)

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they dont' challege anti-immgration, they are part of cycle to make our people fight with poor or middle class whites while the United States and Mexico begin their North America Union. but the ppl in EZLN speak up how NAFTA is destroyin' mexico and america's ppl.
The Mexica Movement is challenging the Anti Immigrant agenda by protesting and confronting losers like Lou Dobbs.

They are fighting for the rights of the original inhabitants of this continent.

They can't fight for everything.

Let other people speak against NAFTA. Quit singling out the Mexica Movement.


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yes the nubia ppl were alot darker than eyptian but that doesn't mean they weren't black skin.
Look at the damn picture again. There is a clear difference in prothaganism and the rest of the facial structure.

Let me put up the pic again since you can't quote right.



And here are some more Egyptian depictions.



and



Hardly black African.

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yes arabs were once black ppl, where you think they came from?

no, the blacks you see in arab countries today are arabs that been there for thousands of years.
what did I tell you? I said *NEGRITO* The area was populated by Negritos, Archaic template race to the races of today.

They are not 'black' like Negroids (blacks of today)
And Color does not mean the definition of race.

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the moors were black people.
They are/were Arabs and Berbers. Go look what Berber means.

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ppl's skin color in north asia and europe changed 'cause of evolution. but look at the ppl in india or in austrilia they're black as night.

the indigenous ppl of austrilia are still black
So they have black pigmented skin. And? they are not Negroid.

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the first jews were black just like jesus was black
The Jews were never black and jesus isn't black.

Where in the bible does it say he was black? I don't recall.
Because it doesn't.


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that's why alexander blew the nose off that strucature in kemet 'cause one way you can tell a black person is by his nose

well you need to read that part in the bible again
Why don't you show where it is in the bible so I and other curious readers can
read it.

Good luck, as it isn't in there.

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u probably actually think aztecs were the name of the ppl in mexico
Mexico didn't exist until the Spaniards arrived. Before that it was a landmass
with many nations and kingdoms.

One was controlled by the Mexica. (MESHEEKA)
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I think he is being mildly pro European to ruin the Native Americans so
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First of all learn how to *QUOTE*

So people don't have to keep scrolling up to compare what they said to what you said.

Now re read what I said about arrowheads.

it's a no brainer.



LOL!!! are you serious?

You must be *HIGH* on bullshit.

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Looks nothing like Patrick Ewing.
The Zygomatic bones are at different heights from the eyes and the nose isn't even the same!! Look at the freakin *NOSE* are you that stupid?!

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They came across the bering strait from *ASIA* they are Mongoloid.

Do you know what *MONGOLOID* is?

Native Americans have more in common with Asians than Africans.

They cluster with Koreans and Siberia people not Sub Saharan Blacks.

Amerindian Engineering is nothing like those in Africa. Unless you count
the use of fundamentalism of step pyramids in pursuit of height and functionality.

A universal law doesn't mean they are cousins.



The population of Easter Island is Mongoloids not blondes with blue eyes or of that nature.

And what does them having things in common with South America have to do with anything?. They probably traded or were settled by them.

Big deal.




logic at it's worst. ^^

I know the meaning of *DIVIDE AND CONQUER* not 'divine and conquer'

The Mexica Movement has a dislike with some people and now they are the equivalent of the KKK lol and are run by the goverment. LOL

Donkeys have breast milk so do Humans I guess we are all part donkey then right?

It's not the embodiment of actions or the resources, behind individuals.

It's the embodiment of collective thought behind individuals who use those actions and resources.



Thanks for stating the obvious, that Native Americans came before 1492.

(please this guy should do stand up)



The Mexica Movement is challenging the Anti Immigrant agenda by protesting and confronting losers like Lou Dobbs.

They are fighting for the rights of the original inhabitants of this continent.

They can't fight for everything.

Let other people speak against NAFTA. Quit singling out the Mexica Movement.




Look at the damn picture again. There is a clear difference in prothaganism and the rest of the facial structure.

Let me put up the pic again since you can't quote right.



And here are some more Egyptian depictions.



and



Hardly black African.



what did I tell you? I said *NEGRITO* The area was populated by Negritos, Archaic template race to the races of today.

They are not 'black' like Negroids (blacks of today)
And Color does not mean the definition of race.



They are/were Arabs and Berbers. Go look what Berber means.



So they have black pigmented skin. And? they are not Negroid.



The Jews were never black and jesus isn't black.

Where in the bible does it say he was black? I don't recall.
Because it doesn't.




Why don't you show where it is in the bible so I and other curious readers can
read it.

Good luck, as it isn't in there.



Mexico didn't exist until the Spaniards arrived. Before that it was a landmass
with many nations and kingdoms.

One was controlled by the Mexica. (MESHEEKA)
i will learn how to quote if you learn how not to be racist. but really i don't care. newayz

you do know that pic of the kwman is only a guess of what he look like. and alot of the info on the kwman has been classified by the federal government. but no he features closely resemblin' polyneaisns and and southern asians, not ppl from northern russia or koran. ALSO IT WAS REPORTED IN BRAZIL SCIENIST HAVE FOUND A 3 MILLION YEAR OLD AUSTRALOLPITCHECINE they called "Luzia" but later they said she was 12,000 years old but newayz it was reported by the London times she didn't look monogoloid but scienist workin' on her skull said her features are similar to modern day austrilian aborigines and africans and show no similarities at all with the monogloid from east asia and modern day indians.

the first americans didn't cross no ice bridge 12,000 years ago, the first americans have been around alot longer than 12,000 years, and in mexico there is proof of that with the 40,000 year old foot prints.

Amerindian Engineering is alot like the ones in africa.

no, the indigenous ppl of easter island are white ppl, learn your history. their giant stone statues look exactly like the ones in south america and the stone statues have african's features. it's a big deal 'cause that would mean they had connection with each other, and the easter island ppl worpshipped the same idiols.

the mexica movement is black mark on the mexican ppl and they're just like the kkk, and spin hate instead of knowledge, and act alot like government's agents. actions? what action? i don't see 'em standin' up to the new world order or the u.s. government or the mexico government. they're sleepin' with the enemy and just because they're brown doesn't mean they're down. they want us to look other direction and be hateful towards all whites instead of seein' the real picture. we're screw up the butt by the elite folks who are only 1% of the population. they don't give a damn about mexicans if they did they be speakin' out about nafta and the mexico government, they be askin' their mexico government why millions of mexicans have to risk their lives to cross a desert just so they can feed their families back at home. do you really think millions of mexicans want to leave their homelands?

duh the native americans came before 1492. why do you spin words? it doesn't work on me at all. and not once have you ever heard me say whites were the first americans. and no, i said native americans went to europe long before 1492. read the words right.

lou dobbs? man, that dude is speakin' out against the north american union, not the mexicans. just because someone is against immigration does that mean he is against mexicans. and can blame americans for being mad that their jobs are being taken away? 'cause i don't. and i've said before, i'm not for or against immigration. but i'm against the north american union. have you ever heard lou dobbs speak? i bet you haven't, i bet you just listen to what mexica movement says about him. lou dobbs is just askin' the u.s. government to take care of americans first instead of lettin' immigration take away our jobs. he askin' the government to stop sendin' our jobs to india.

lol they can't fight everything. whatever, that's a excuse. they've time for disney but no time against the nafta who are the prime reason for mexico gettin' worst and sendin' millions of mexicans across a desert. yea right, they don't speak about it 'cause the government is payin' 'em to make mexicans hate whites. the government doesnt' care about middle or poor whites, blacks, mexicans or asians. they want us fightin' each other. they don't want us to see what the real problem is which is nafta.

i don't know what the heck u r talkin' about with the breast milk and donkeys. lol r u high? shoot, askin' me if i'm high and then u come at me with the breast milk and donkey thing serio do' what the heck does breast milk and donkey gotta do with ezln, nafta or mexica movement?

do all africans look the same? i don't need to look at the pic, i've seen those pics alot times before when i read up on the subject long time ago. eyptian in ancient times were black ppl. that lie that they weren't black is a lie that was told by white ppl. the ppl of egytian were lighter skin, but just because their cousins in the south were dark as night does not mean egyptian weren't black, and they has been many ancient paintings of egytians showin' they're black skin ppl.

http://www.hebrewisraelites.org/images/Mentuhotep2.jpg

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/20...tt-photography

yes, that's national georgraphic :P

"hardly african" crazy how small minded ppl are.

IDIOT'S GUIDE TO WHY THE EGYPTIANS WERE BLACK

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5ZirTFUKME

hardly black my a##

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berber are ppl from northern africa and arab countries who are related to the first man, ppl from sudan, there for, are black.

actually all ppl from europe, asia, and austrilia came from africa, the orgin of man. it took europeans 20,000 years to turn white. just like it asians thousands of years to turn yellow, and the ppl in austrilian clearly look like the ppl of africa.

lol yes the jews were black (dude, u r a racist huh) i'm not going to do your homework for you, but the descripition of jesus by historian jospeh says jesus was "Short, dark, with an underdeveloped beard" and the bible says jesus had hair of wool and feet "color of brass"

even the catholic pope were caught prayin' to black mary and jesus baby 'cause jesus is actually Osiris and horus, african gods.

where do i say alexander's part was in the bible? you're one dumb cat. and you've to remember the new testment is not the old testment, it was changed alot. outta 30 gospels only four were chosen.

yes mexico did exist, not in the spanish name mexico, but the ppl of that land called themselves Mexica who were the last tribe to settle, but spanish ppl couldn't say mexica so they changed it to mexico.
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actually i'm Anarchist. and i ain't anti-european, or africa, or asian, or american.

yea u just mad 'cause i made u look bad alot times
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I think he is being mildly pro European to ruin the Native Americans so
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maybe you ask me before puttin' words into my mouth. i've said, many times before, i believe there were ppl in america long before europeans, africans, and asian came. which means i believe in native americans' history

sayin' they came across from a ice bridge is very pro-european, which u have said they came from, nunzombie.

yes i do believe africans came to america hundreds of years before colombus ever did
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the mexica movement is black mark on the mexican ppl and they're just like the kkk, and spin hate instead of knowledge, and act alot like government's agents. actions? what action? i don't see 'em standin' up to the new world order or the u.s. government or the mexico government. they're sleepin' with the enemy and just because they're brown doesn't mean they're down. they want us to look other direction and be hateful towards all whites instead of seein' the real picture.
I wouldn’t throw an absolute verdict on Mexica Movement so quick. True a lot of their rhetoric is emotionally based but to associate them to be government agents is a bit much.
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they don't give a damn about mexicans if they did they be speakin' out about nafta and the mexico government they be askin' their mexico government why millions of mexicans have to risk their lives to cross a desert just so they can feed their families back at home.
Just because they don't denounce the Mexican government or Nafta directly does not mean they’re not against said entities in an indirect manner.

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lou dobbs? man, that dude is speakin' out against the north american union, not the mexicans. just because someone is against immigration does that mean he is against mexicans.
I hear most of his blame go to Mexicans waay more than the NAU.
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lol they can't fight everything. whatever, that's a excuse. they've time for disney but no time against the nafta who are the prime reason for mexico gettin' worst and sendin' millions of mexicans across a desert. yea right, they don't speak about it 'cause the government is payin' 'em to make mexicans hate whites. the government doesnt' care about middle or poor whites, blacks, mexicans or asians. they want us fightin' each other. they don't want us to see what the real problem is which is nafta.


What is very questionable is YOUR consistency in making such claims against Mexica Movement. A move which in fact is a very popular COINTELPRO tactic..

“When discussing potential informants it is also wise to remeber another FBI tactic, called giving someone a "snitch jacket", where a rumor or false evidence is introduced to other activists causing them to believe that an activist a police informant, when in reality they are not. Classify this under COINTELPRO divide and conquer tactics.”
While I don't agree with all Mexica Movements philosophies and positions. I believe them to be in their collective, a very informative organization. I have personally met quite a few of the main members on many occasions and over the last 6 yrs and have never sensed anything disengenuine about them. Perhaps a lil emotional and reactionary in some respects but far from the claims you are putting forth.

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actually i'm Anarchist. and i ain't anti-european, or africa, or asian, or american.

yea u just mad 'cause i made u look bad alot times
If you really did make me look bad I probably would not be responding. You're making yourself look bad with your 3rd grade English proficiency level. You know what happened in complete Anarchy? The Europeans came and took over. So much for your beliefs.

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They deserve the absolute verdict. Their propaganda speaks for themselves.

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I hear most of his blame go to Mexicans waay more than the NAU
Then I guess he does blame his wife and children a WHOLE lot!
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If you really did make me look bad I probably would not be responding. You're making yourself look bad with your 3rd grade English proficiency level. You know what happened in complete Anarchy? The Europeans came and took over. So much for your beliefs.



They deserve the absolute verdict. Their propaganda speaks for themselves.



Then I guess he does blame his wife and children a WHOLE lot!
lol what?! what are you talkin' about with anarchy and europe? when has pre roman and christian europe has ever been about anarchy? anarchist are ppl that want to overthrow the u.s. government and give the land back to the indigneous ppl, mr. so called know it all

aw u know i made you look bad

"blame my wife and children" wtf r u talkin' about?
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I wouldn’t throw an absolute verdict on Mexica Movement so quick. True a lot of their rhetoric is emotionally based but to associate them to be government agents is a bit much.
Just because they don't denounce the Mexican government or Nafta directly does not mean they’re not against said entities in an indirect manner.

I hear most of his blame go to Mexicans waay more than the NAU.


What is very questionable is YOUR consistency in making such claims against Mexica Movement. A move which in fact is a very popular COINTELPRO tactic..

“When discussing potential informants it is also wise to remeber another FBI tactic, called giving someone a "snitch jacket", where a rumor or false evidence is introduced to other activists causing them to believe that an activist a police informant, when in reality they are not. Classify this under COINTELPRO divide and conquer tactics.”
While I don't agree with all Mexica Movements philosophies and positions. I believe them to be in their collective, a very informative organization. I have personally met quite a few of the main members on many occasions and over the last 6 yrs and have never sensed anything disengenuine about them. Perhaps a lil emotional and reactionary in some respects but far from the claims you are putting forth.
the mexica movement dont' speak out against nafta who are biggest threat to "latin" america. end of story.
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the mexica movement dont' speak out against nafta who are biggest threat to "latin" america. end of story.
Reading this statement suggests you know nothing of NAFTA. "nafta who are biggest threat." wtf? NAFTA is actually helping Mexico, but Mexico does not want to help itself.


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lol what?! what are you talkin' about with anarchy and europe? when has pre roman and christian europe has ever been about anarchy? anarchist are ppl that want to overthrow the u.s. government and give the land back to the indigneous ppl, mr. so called know it all
You should look up modern examples of anarchy and see how horrible the conditions are.

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aw u know i made you look bad
You're only making yourself look bad, saying that you made me look bad. Your English is horrendous.

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"blame my wife and children" wtf r u talkin' about?
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Sometimes it's good to log-off the internet and actually read a book by known specialists on the subject. Or to read peer-reviewed work, which is usually available online. I recommend JSTOR, Sage journals online, Blackwell Synergy.
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Tomorrow, i will take a pic of the pages from American Holocaust and post them. Not that some may not care, but ya never know, i thought it was an iteresting explaination of things.
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Tomorrow, i will take a pic of the pages from American Holocaust and post them. Not that some may not care, but ya never know, i thought it was an iteresting explaination of things.
naw post them, i would like to save the ones you post
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Reading this statement suggests you know nothing of NAFTA. "nafta who are biggest threat." wtf? NAFTA is actually helping Mexico, but Mexico does not want to help itself.




You should look up modern examples of anarchy and see how horrible the conditions are.



You're only making yourself look bad, saying that you made me look bad. Your English is horrendous.


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lol@nafta is helpin' mexico. dude, are you talkin' for the government or are you that dumb? okay if nafta is helpin' mexico then why is nafta sendin' millions of starvin' mexicans across a desert to work cheap jobs in america? why did the indigeous ppl of mexico have stood up to nafta sayin' ENOUGH IS ENOUGH (EZLN) u can't be that dumb

okay i just look what colombus said about the red man before they turn their anarchy heaven into hell. let's see they were givin', they work when they had too, rested alot, women had rights, children were given education through their parents, grandparents, uncles, aunts, cousins and friends, they were very givin', had no word for "owned" anarchy looks very sweet to me. alot better than this u.s. government that needs 90% of the ppl to be slaves just so the 10% can live it very rich.

makin' you look very bad indeed

so are you a government spy 'cause that part about nafta is helpin' mexico can only be said by a dumb fool or a spy, 'cause government spies are very real on the internet. you probably not even mexican huh?
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