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Old 02-06-2006
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I need to submit an idea for a documentary. Since I live in the border, I have many, many ideas. But mainly I have the following:

-Prostitution (Zona de Tolerancia at Nuevo Laredo)
-Violence
-History

I just dunno what to do.
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Just take video footage and see what you get. I was thinking of doing one about indigenas from Oaxaca since there's a lot of them here in Cali and in TJ.
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Good advice Tecpaocelotl. I'll try to start shooting some coverage this weekend.

Your idea on indigenas is good, if you know them, or you know where to find them, maybe you should interview them.
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Actually I had the idea of doing a documentary on a specific historical character or Anahuac warfare and such.

For instance. Let's say I do a biographical on lord 8-Deer or any other character. It would be done in the way the History Channel does when talking about Julius Caesar or Adrianus. The only problem I have is that I couldn't make it with on-location footage, because I don't live, for instance, in Tilantongo. I know I could go on Spring Break, but still, it's just for class.

The other idea was to talk about warfare in Anahuac, by showing images of enemy warriors fighting and capturing each other, or doing the famous gladiatorial scenes. In this case, I would show not only 8-Deer, but also Netzahualcoyotl, Tlahuicole, Tariacuri, Jasaw Chan K'awiil, and other war lords that were famous in their times for their respective military and tactical deeds.

I know it won't be first class filming, but I would like to start opening space in film making for our history. What do you think/advice?
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I had some address also (Ones that would've been cool to interview were these two guys who were Mixteco. One spoke Mixteco and Spanish while the other only spoke Mixteco. Kind of met them untentionally. This gave me the idea for making a documentary either called Native OC or Barrio Indios since there is a lot of Natives from Mexico and a lot from the US, but yet no one speaks for them. Someone needs to speak for the voiceless.). Lost them when I moved. Plus gave back the camera to my dad since I wasn't using it.
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Actually I had the idea of doing a documentary on a specific historical character or Anahuac warfare and such.

For instance. Let's say I do a biographical on lord 8-Deer or any other character. It would be done in the way the History Channel does when talking about Julius Caesar or Adrianus. The only problem I have is that I couldn't make it with on-location footage, because I don't live, for instance, in Tilantongo. I know I could go on Spring Break, but still, it's just for class.

The other idea was to talk about warfare in Anahuac, by showing images of enemy warriors fighting and capturing each other, or doing the famous gladiatorial scenes. In this case, I would show not only 8-Deer, but also Netzahualcoyotl, Tlahuicole, Tariacuri, Jasaw Chan K'awiil, and other war lords that were famous in their times for their respective military and tactical deeds.

I know it won't be first class filming, but I would like to start opening space in film making for our history. What do you think/advice?
Why not do a documentary on great warrior Tzilacatzin or Cuauhtemoc's best friend and right hand man Temoctzin? I would've done it on Tenamaxtli.

What state/area are you from? I probably know of a hero from history so you could do it on location.
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The problem with Cuauhtemoc's warriors is that their actions, in battle, are so detailed, that it would take me do the entire documentary just on them, and the situation they lived when defending Mexico Tenochtitlan. Let me put it this way: I don't feel worthy to put on the screen the siege of Tenochtitlan, mainly because I don't the re$ource$ to make this grand epich. That's my opinion.

Tenamaxtli is a good idea though.

There are no precuauhtemic heroes where I live, trust me at least like those who lived and fought in the north or the south of me. The only important characters that crossed through here where pochtecas and tamemes. I'm in the Texas-Tamaulipas border. The Apaches Lipanes did came here, or at least near, because they were pushed by attacks from the Comanches. Each side, the Apaches and Comanches have their own heroes, still nowadays. But I don't like the time it happened, when Spanish were settling in the Texas Rio Grande Valley and Highlands (ie. San Antonio de Bejar).

This land, the border, has almost no history prior to Cuauhtemoc.
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The problem with Cuauhtemoc's warriors is that their actions, in battle, are so detailed, that it would take me do the entire documentary just on them, and the situation they lived when defending Mexico Tenochtitlan. Let me put it this way: I don't feel worthy to put on the screen the siege of Tenochtitlan, mainly because I don't the re$ource$ to make this grand epich. That's my opinion.

Tenamaxtli is a good idea though.

There are no precuauhtemic heroes where I live, trust me at least like those who lived and fought in the north or the south of me. The only important characters that crossed through here where pochtecas and tamemes. I'm in the Texas-Tamaulipas border. The Apaches Lipanes did came here, or at least near, because they were pushed by attacks from the Comanches. Each side, the Apaches and Comanches have their own heroes, still nowadays. But I don't like the time it happened, when Spanish were settling in the Texas Rio Grande Valley and Highlands (ie. San Antonio de Bejar).

This land, the border, has almost no history prior to Cuauhtemoc.
Cuauhtemoc is taken care of bc the guy who created the movie Tecolotl: Night Owl will be making a documentary on Cuauhtemoc. That guy is taking his time though.
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Actually the documentary I ended up doing last year was about a poor family living in the outskirts of Nuevo Laredo. I didn't finished it, but got the raw footage. I'm planning to upload it to You Tube or something.

Currently I'm engaging in doing a short film. Guess what time period I'm doing it? I'm doing the casting with locals.
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Actually the documentary I ended up doing last year was about a poor family living in the outskirts of Nuevo Laredo. I didn't finished it, but got the raw footage. I'm planning to upload it to You Tube or something.

Currently I'm engaging in doing a short film. Guess what time period I'm doing it? I'm doing the casting with locals.
Cool cool.

I'm assuming, colonial?
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Why don't you just finish it at home and then post it on you tube so we can enjoy it in the form you intended?

I've always been interested in film and making them. I even started writing in a note book, storys a such. You got to start somewhere i guess.
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Cool cool.

I'm assuming, colonial?
Nope... I want to do it before the Spaniards. I know it will be hard, but I also think is doable.

Right now I'm preparing for the casting. People are all excited and willing to participate in an indigenous movie project. Except for one girl that doesn't qualify because she is blonde.

The only problem I will face in a couple of weeks is money wise. I am already preparing everything we're gonna need for outfits and such.

About the story... I still have to decide depending on the pool of people I get from the casting. Less females will determine a more militaristic kinda movie, more females will become a more "chick flick". Either way, I'm determined to do it. Even if it's independent and in non-original locations.

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Why don't you just finish it at home and then post it on you tube so we can enjoy it in the form you intended?

I've always been interested in film and making them. I even started writing in a note book, storys a such. You got to start somewhere i guess.
Yeah I wanna do that. I also want to upload other projects I've made like a mini animation clip of Dancing Tecuanis, an experimental video, and a commercial against globalization/poverty. In the mean time, you are all invited to check out my personal home videos at You Tube, just look up for my nickname, tlacuilopilo. It's mainly videos of my daughter, Quetzalli.
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