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Does anyone know what Native groups are originally from Jalisco? I know that western Jalisco is home to the Cora(mainly from Nayarit) and I'm guessing that there are Purepecha near the Michoacan border, but what about the rest? I've asked down there, but I've NEVER gotten any answers.
There's many or at least there was. I posted an article on that plus my site has more info.

Here's some links:

http://www.soychicano.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3488

http://www.soychicano.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6294

Knowing people will ask about how can they trace their roots, then there are these links:

http://www.soychicano.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9093

http://www.soychicano.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9235

http://www.soychicano.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18775
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Old 01-18-2007
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I never knew that Mazahuas represent the largest group of native speakers in Mexico State. That's impressive!
Actually part of what we know today as western Estado de Mexico was called Mazahuacan in precuauhtemic times. Except for Toluca, which is Matlatzinca, and the one the borders with Michoacan which is Otomi.

Very near that border, in Zitacuaro, the Otomi, the P'urepecha and the Mazahua formed something similar to a confederation.
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Thats interesting..Do you know any websites or books...where I can find more info.?????
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Thats interesting..Do you know any websites or books...where I can find more info.?????
This is a good monography about the Mazahuas. It has a couple of excellent history bits and pieces.

http://cdi.gob.mx/ini/monografias/mazahuas.html

If anyone else knows about a book, I'm also interested about Mazahuas. My maternal family is from Angangueo, Mazahua country.

All info about Mazahuas I have got it from bits and pieces from the usual primary sources.
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Can anyone tell give some information on the Opata?
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To be honest, never heard of the Opata.
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Just found a great website.
http://www.geocities.com/quitoyou/opatamain.html
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Can anyone tell give some information on the Opata?
Hey man, I posted this info about Opata people 4 weeks ago... here's the link to the thread:

http://www.soychicano.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26338
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Hey man, I posted this info about Opata people 4 weeks ago... here's the link to the thread:

http://www.soychicano.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26338

Cool, thanks for the link to the thread.
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Old 02-21-2007
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Cool, thanks for the link to the thread.
No problem.
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Good thread. Everyone gave good points.
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Having flash backs of my life and I do remember when I was 13 my aunt in Guadalajara having Mazahua neighbors. I remember hearing them talk once, and they got quiet when I got near their house.
Near where I'm from it's common to see Tepehuanos and such going to the big towns it's always pleasant to hear them speak their beautiful language. They also have their particular way of dressing which makes them light up the streets when we see them. If it weren't for the clothes, I'm afraid we wouldn't even be able to tell them apart from the everyday "Mexican" population.
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I know the langauges from La Gran Chichimeca are essentially gone, the famous indio resistance from there's descendants do not know or even reject the indigenous culture of those brave fighters

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Actually... ... ...

As of 2005 here are the most spoken in Mexico.

1.- Nahuatl with 1 376 026 persons
2.- Maya with 759 000
3.- Mixtec languages 423 216
4.- Zapotec languages 410 901
5.- Tzeltzal 371 730
6.- Tzotzil 329 937
7.- Hahu (Otomi) 239 850

If you separate all of the Mixtec and Zapotec languages within the family, then... Tzeltzal would go up to number 3 and Tzotzil to number 4.

Yet, as an Otomi I should stress that the Hahu nation does not recognize this data from the INEGI, and believe it is the number 1 group in Mexico, even greater than all the variants of Nahuatl altogether.
Just out of curiosity, of the major languages that you have listed here, how many of them have both an oral and written history, and of the ones that are only oral is there an effort to create a written supplement in order to better preserve those languages from extinction?
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Just out of curiosity, of the major languages that you have listed here, how many of them have both an oral and written history, and of the ones that are only oral is there an effort to create a written supplement in order to better preserve those languages from extinction?
Only ones that I can think of with those two questions are Nahuatl and Maya (Yucatec).
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I'm learning a lot of Mayan these days.
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