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After American Family yesterday, they had a mini documentary on Ruben Salazar. I thought it was funny when a girl said that most people don't know who Ruben Salazar is unless you took a Chicano Studies class. I was cracking up. I have never taken a Chicano studies class in my life (except for a UFW and a chicano poetry workshop for cesar chavez day which they call Hispanic day now at least that's what they call it back home, but that's it). I remember I would talk about stuff like that with my friends back in high school. I was never in MEChA. MEChA was never (and still isn't) in our high school (it could've been back in the 70's, but the KKK scared the students who wanted to make it).
MEChA from what I heard were a bunch of kids who partied and had fund raisers and learned from one person than from each other (I think that's bad. No one should learn from one person. It's like christianity for me. We should instead learn from each other.).
My friends and I created Sexto Sol. It worked at first, but we started having conflicts with each other. I would remember about Ruben Salazar when I watched Chicano and demostrated it to the club.
Anyway, Ruben Salazar was a reporter for the LA Times (I'm surprised no one has been half the man he is from these many years. If someone wrote like he did, white people would complain and say it's racist. I see no idea why, but it explained at least to the whole LA area about what a Chicano is and what we are doing and wanting to accomplish. They used his first article as the introduction and conclusion.).
I'll write more if anybody is interested... Right now I need to go to class... This is my second time writing this.
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Yeah, I saw that too. I watched it with my boyfriend, who is Mexican (not Chicano), and I called my sister and told her to watch it. I knew who Ruben Salazar was because I have a bunch of books on Chicano history etc., but my sister and my boyfriend didn't know anything about him.

So, I think what the girl said is true. Especially if we are including white people in this. The white kids here don't even know who Cesar Chavez is. Even a lot of the Mexicans just know about the boxer!!
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So, I think what the girl said is true. Especially if we are including white people in this. The white kids here don't even know who Cesar Chavez is. Even a lot of the Mexicans just know about the boxer!!
It would be false on me though...
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I was just a kid when Mr. Salazar was murdered by the racist pigs. I was a snot nose, but my sisters were stone Pachucas. I dont watch edward james whats his face. I do watch PBS but didn't see the stuff on Salazar. However it is you learned of him, the spirit of Mr. Salazar must be kept alive. His education and ability to articulate reality scared the hell out of the gabachos. Ruben Salazar was silenced in "land of the free" America.

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Right on.
I wasn't born when he was murdered.
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that girl in the documentary was right. i had no clue who mr. salazar was until i took my first chicano studies class. wanna know something embarrasing? when i saw this thread's title, i thought to myself: that name sounds familiar, where have i heard it before?

there, now i feel stupid for admitting that.
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Don't feel stupid. Feel stupid if you don't ask about it. To tell you the truth, I didn't know about him until my friends told me about him back in high school (that was a long time ago. Don't want to think about it. LOL. During this time I was just into pre-columbian mexican history and my friends were into the chicano movement.)
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Default Who Is a Chicano? And What Is It the Chicanos Want? by Ruben Salazar - video

http://www.pbs.org/americanfamily/airdates.html

On the right side, click to see "Who is a Chicano?" by Ruben Salazar video which has part of Ruben Salazar article on who is a Chicano and about Ruben Salazar.
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MAN I WASNT ABLE TO WATCH IT!!
"Due to heavy demand, video may not always be available - especially during peak hours of 5pm to midnight ET. Please try back later if you are having problems."
AND IS ALREADY 6:54
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I've also been unable to watch it. I cant' see it at work, and I don't have Real player installed on my pc.
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Not sure what to tell you bro.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again... Good post!
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Who Is a Chicano? And What Is It the Chicanos Want?
February 6, 1970


A Chicano is a Mexican-American with a non-Anglo image of himself.
He resents being told Columbus "discovered" America when the Chicano's ancestors, the Mayans and the Aztecs, founded highly sophisticated civilizations centuries before Spain financed the Italian explorer's trip to the "New World."
Chicanos resent also Anglo pronouncements that Chicanos are "culturally deprived" or that the fact that they speak Spanish is a "problem."
Chicanos will tell you that their culture predates that of the Pilgrims and that Spanish was spoken in America before English and so the "problem" is not theirs but the Anglos' who don't speak Spanish.
Having told you that, the Chicano will then contend that Anglos are Spanish-oriented at the expense of Mexicans.
They will complain that when the governor dressed up as a Spanish nobleman for the Santa Barbara Fiesta he's insulting Mexicans because the Spanish conquered and exploited the Mexicans.
It's as if the governor dressed like an English Redcoat for a Fourth of July parade, Chicanos say.
When you think you know what Chicanos are getting at, a Mexican-American will tell you that Chicano is an insulting term and may even quote the Spanish Academy to prove that Chicano derives from chicanery.
A Chicano will scoff at this and say that such Mexican-Americans have been brainwashed by Anglos and that they're Tio Tacos (Uncle Toms). This type of Mexican-American, Chicanos will argue, don't like the word Chicano because it's abrasive to their Anglo-oriented minds.
These poor people are brown Anglos, Chicanos will smirk.
What, then, is a Chicano? Chicanos say that if you have to ask you'll never understand, much less become, a Chicano.
Actually, the word Chicano is as difficult to define as "soul."
For those who like simplistic answers, Chicano can be defined as short for Mexicano. For those who prefer complicated answers, it has been suggested that Chicano may have come from the word Chihuahua—the name of a Mexican state bordering on the United States. Getting trickier, this version then contends that Mexicans who migrated to Texas call themselves Chicanos because having crossed into the United States from Chihuahua they adopted the first three letters of that state, Chi, and then added cano, for the latter part of Texano.
Such explanations, however, tend to miss the whole point as to why Mexican-American activists call themselves Chicanos.
Mexican-Americans, the second largest minority in the country and the largest in the Southwestern states (California, Texas, Arizona, New Mexico and Colorado), have always had difficulty making up their minds what to call themselves.
In New Mexico, they call themselves Spanish-Americans. In other parts of the Southwest they call themselves Americans of Mexican descent, people with Spanish surnames or Hispanos.
Why, ask some Mexican-Americans, can't we just call ourselves Americans?
Chicanos are trying to explain why not. Mexican-Americans, though indigenous to the Southwest, are on the lowest rung scholastically, economically, socially and politically. Chicanos feel cheated. They want to effect change. Now.
Mexican-Americans average eight years of schooling compared to the Negroes' 10 years. Farm workers, most of whom are Mexican-American in the Southwest, are excluded from the National Labor Relations Act, unlike other workers. Also, Mexican-Americans often have to compete for low-paying jobs with their Mexican brothers from across the border who are willing to work for even less. Mexican-Americans have to live with the stinging fact that the word Mexican is the synonym for inferior in many parts of the Southwest.
That is why Mexican-American activists flaunt the barrio word Chicano—as an act of defiance and a badge of honor. Mexican-Americans, though large in numbers, are so politically impotent that in Los Angeles, where the country's largest single concentration of Spanish-speaking live, they have no one of their own on the City Council. This, in a city politically sophisticated enough to have three Negro councilmen.
Chicanos, then, are merely fighting to become "Americans." Yes, but with a Chicano outlook.
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Thank You for posting this write up.
It sure was nice to read the thoughts of someone so long separated from us and so important to that era.

The information being so accurate in my eyes, and memory, I guess you could call Ruben Salazar one of the sacrificial lambs of my time.

It does the heart good to know that you young people will post up his words, and give him a proper place in the history of the Chicano Movement.

Again, Muchas Gracias
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I didnt read any of that...but my dads name is Ruben Salazar.
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Thank You for posting this write up.
It sure was nice to read the thoughts of someone so long separated from us and so important to that era.

The information being so accurate in my eyes, and memory, I guess you could call Ruben Salazar one of the sacrificial lambs of my time.

It does the heart good to know that you young people will post up his words, and give him a proper place in the history of the Chicano Movement.

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You're welcome. I always saw this as the definition of Chicano.

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^ you should read it
What he said.
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Just bringing it up for those who haven't read it.
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I didnt read any of that...but my dads name is Ruben Salazar.
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hahaha this was pretty funny...is he THE RUBEN



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how about merging the Ruben Salazar threads into one? He's being commemorated today
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Wow good video. Sad to say this is my first time learning of Ruben. I'm glad i got to see and read this thread. This was the main reason i joined soy was to read up on Chicano history/issues. I slacked a lil but i have learned a lot.

I like how they explained the hyphen in the video.
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