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Default The Jehovah Witness view of Jesus

Did you know that Jehovah's Witnesses
do not consider Jesus to be equal with God the Father?



Wow, I myself did not know that!

Check this out, on their web site they actually makes some convncing arguements:


http://www.watchtower.org/library/ti...article_06.htm

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"JESUS never claimed to be God. Everything he said about himself indicates that he did not consider himself equal to God in any way—not in power, not in knowledge, not in age.

God is always the superior, Jesus the lesser one who was created by God. "


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Jesus told the Jews: "I have come down from heaven to do, not my will, but the will of him that sent me." —John 6:38

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Then, as he neared death, Jesus cried out: "My God, my God, why have you deserted me?" (Mark 15:34, JB) To whom was Jesus crying out? To himself or to part of himself? Surely, that cry, "My God," was not from someone who considered himself to be God.


Wow, talk about rocking the boat, these Jehovah's Witnesses.
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Is anyone here a Jehovah Witness
and can tell me why the women are not allowed to wear makeup?

I always wondered what's up with that.
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yep the JW doctrine differs
in some areas
the make up issue is also
in some christian denominations
as well. im unsure about the
reason as well.
explaining the relationship between
God/Jesus is harder to explain
kinda like the trinity
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yep the JW doctrine differs
in some areas
the make up issue is also
in some christian denominations
as well. im unsure about the
reason as well.
explaining the relationship between
God/Jesus is harder to explain
kinda like the trinity

Yeah, that's true about other denominations.

The Watchtower.org page link above explains the Jesus/God link pretty well.
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Is anyone here a Jehovah Witness
and can tell me why the women are not allowed to wear makeup?

I always wondered what's up with that.
I dont consider myself to be an active Witness -

But Witnesses wear make-up There are so many rumors about them, and people get all fired up and emotional about them.

Witness women dress modestly but fashionably. You would say they dress professionally. They can wear make-up and jewelry, but are admonished to be more concerned on the woman they are on the inside more than be the woman that is very showy.

If a young girl doesnt wear makeup - its usually because her father wont let her - Witness fathers seem to be very strict with their young daughters. I think it comes from the fact that they do not want their diaughters to be attractive to men that are not Witnesses - we are admonished to marry only other Witnesses. I know my father did this.

Women do not take the lead in the congregation, but they are not put down either - they are a respected part of the congregation and the elder women are looked up to by the younger women and they lead by example.
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i dont consider mtself a 100% j. wittness

but correct me if im wrong,, a lot of people critazise the JW people, for exaple they see a JW do a mistake or something bad by accident and they star saying, i thought you where a JW and JW people dont make mistakes ther perfect.. people are just watching to see what mistake they para criticar.. but in the bible dice: todos somos pekadores

Salmos 51:5
¡Mira! Con error fui dado a luz con dolores de parto,
y en pecado me concibió mi madre


anyways,, i agree that jusus and godd are not the same.. i was told that god was with jesus whaen they created the world

Génesis 1:26
Y Dios pasó a decir: “Hagamos [al] hombre a nuestra imagen, según nuestra semejanza, y tengan ellos en sujeción los peces del mar y las criaturas voladoras de los cielos y los animales domésticos y toda la tierra y todo animal moviente que se mueve sobre la tierra

sapossly god was talking to jesus ....

perdonen me por no escribir bien en ingles,...
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my mom is a Jehovah's Witness and i to consider myself one and let me tell you they are telling u da truth cause i used to be catholic and the priest would tell u stuff and then ud look it up and it wouldnt be the same or even somtimes ud come to find out that when they they something is in the bible and u go look it up its not in there cause they dont think ull go look it up---
Girls are allowed to wear makeup we can wear whatever u want shit en las reUNI0Nes that i go to a lot of cholos who are gang members even attend--
you got any questions ill be happy to answer them and ill even tell u were in the bible it located
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well my mom is also a JW...as far as the make up goes thatz a lie mang...they be some hotties in their meeting and assemblys....
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anyways,, i agree that jusus and godd are not the same.. i was told that god was with jesus whaen they created the world

Génesis 1:26
Y Dios pasó a decir: “Hagamos [al] hombre a nuestra imagen, según nuestra semejanza, y tengan ellos en sujeción los peces del mar y las criaturas voladoras de los cielos y los animales domésticos y toda la tierra y todo animal moviente que se mueve sobre la tierra

sapossly god was talking to jesus ....

perdonen me por no escribir bien en ingles,...

Wow, I can't believe I am agreeing with a Chrsitian on who Jesus was.
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anyways,, i agree that jusus and godd are not the same.. i was told that god was with jesus whaen they created the world

Génesis 1:26
Y Dios pasó a decir: “Hagamos [al] hombre a nuestra imagen, según nuestra semejanza, y tengan ellos en sujeción los peces del mar y las criaturas voladoras de los cielos y los animales domésticos y toda la tierra y todo animal moviente que se mueve sobre la tierra

sapossly god was talking to jesus ....

perdonen me por no escribir bien en ingles,...

Wow, I can't believe I am agreeing with a Chrsitian on who Jesus was.
im not christian man, i study with the Jehovah's Witness... sorry dude, you missunderstood me, i also go to the reUNI0Nes.....
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Wow, I can't believe I am agreeing with a Chrsitian on who Jesus was.
im not christian man, i study with the Jehovah's Witness... sorry dude, you missunderstood me, i also go to the reUNI0Nes.....[/quote]


Ah, I see.

Yes, the "Christian" label doesn;'t apply to you.
Ok, that makes sense now.

What do Catholics/Christians say to you about your association with JW's?

P.S. Can you tell me how you got into studying with the JW's?
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i was raised studing with the JW dude, para que me entiendas, infact man im studing the book ¨el conocimiento¨ ¨que lleva a vida eterna¨ every sonday
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i was raised studing with the JW dude, para que me entiendas, infact man im studing the book ¨el conocimiento¨ ¨que lleva a vida eterna¨ every sonday

Are they referring to JW conocimiento?

Do they have this on the Internet?
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i was raised studing with the JW dude, para que me entiendas, infact man im studing the book ¨el conocimiento¨ ¨que lleva a vida eterna¨ every sonday

Are they referring to JW conocimiento?

Do they have this on the Internet?
yes the jw conocimiento,, and i dont know if its on the internet.. you dont belive me do you, about me studing with the JW do you????
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i was raised studing with the JW dude, para que me entiendas, infact man im studing the book ¨el conocimiento¨ ¨que lleva a vida eterna¨ every sonday

Are they referring to JW conocimiento?

Do they have this on the Internet?
yes the jw conocimiento,, and i dont know if its on the internet.. you dont belive me do you, about me studing with the JW do you????
Yes, I do believe you.

Pero, estoy muy curioso sobre personas en los JW's (y como tu caso tambien, estudiantes con ellos.)
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The offical site of the Jehovah's Witnesses is :

http://www.watchtower.org/

here you will find alot of what you need

Dont be mislead on other sites that say they are Jehovah's Witnesses - cause there are people who would like to mislead you.
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Little off subject but, I got a question. Is it true JW's don't observe birthdays and holidays?

Last place I worked some JW bought it. Three days before christmas he makes an announcement that "due to my religelous beliefs, there will no longer be christmas bonuses." dickhead

Months later the brown nosing manager comes up and says "hey it's so and so's and so and so's wedding anniversary and I'm taking donations to send them out to a nice restaurant as a gift from us guys in the shop." I looked at him and said "hey thats a great idea, tell you what, I'm gonna match my christmas bonus" gave him a go eat shit look and walked away.
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yes it's true, my ex was one, his family didn't celebrate anything, and i don't think they drank wine either....
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Little off subject but, I got a question. Is it true JW's don't observe birthdays and holidays?
yes it's true, my ex was one, his family didn't celebrate anything, and i don't think they drank wine either....
That sux for the kids. It's not their fault that their parents are JW's. No Christmas's, birthday's or Halloween's etc. ...... how sad.
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Little off subject but, I got a question. Is it true JW's don't observe birthdays and holidays?
yes it's true, my ex was one, his family didn't celebrate anything, and i don't think they drank wine either....
That sux for the kids. It's not their fault that their parents are JW's. No Christmas's, birthday's or Halloween's etc. ...... how sad.
that's exactly what i thought (sad)...but i asked his younger sisters once and they said they didn't trip off it cause they grew up never celebrating anything, so they didn't miss it....(it's still sad though)
then they (JW) have to go door to door to strange people's homes to spread the "word", hell no, i'd rather be any other religion but JW!
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