
08-16-2008
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Maestro
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Join Date: Aug 2007
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Re: Obama Caucus FRAUD by Dr. Long
The Clinton legal team has approximately 200 affidavits they gathered in Texas regarding fraud.
The doc writes......
A source that I have good reason to believe is trustworthy supplied the information below to Wampum and Corrente — which I’ve suitably anonymized — on issues with the TX caucuses. I think there’s a story here; interested journalists may contact me for a referral. Regardless, the story should have a thorough airing; my source is said to be in possession of affidavits (the missing piece in the story as covered). Example:At the Precinct Convention, _____ said the Chair asked for a “show of hands” of how many people wanted to be delegates and then the Chair appointed “7 delegates to Obama and 6 for Clinton.” The Obama captain called in FALSE results. She said the actual results were 74 Clinton and 33 Obama (total votes) which translates 9 for Clinton and 4 for Obama of 13 delegates. Obama supporters did not allow Hillary supporters to review the results of the count or participate in the math.
Example:The election judge left early and gave the packet [of election materials] to an unidentified individual. No Clinton chair was present. Our captain and volunteers were not allowed to participate in the calculation of delegates or in the reporting and the unidentified individual called in the results, which ______ believes should be Clinton 13 and Obama 0. It is uncertain what was reported.
Example:_________ reports she saw an Obama person writing “Obama” as a preference for HRC voters where there were blanks in the sign in sheets. The Obama person also tried to turn her away because she did not have a voter card. Temp chair was with Obama. Perm chair is an HRC supporter. People left as Beckie argued for 15 to 20 minutes that the precinct log should be checked. The Obama person shouted an announcement that anyone without a voter card should leave.
Example:Precinct 61, a 19 delegate precinct: Voter ________ reports that the delegate calculations were not correct. A “young guy with glasses,” was somehow appointed chair. BHO people dominated the convention despite being heavily out-numbered. Supporters numbered: 89 HRC, 16 BHO, 1 Richardson, 2 uncommitted, but the initial delegate calculation was 16 delegates for HRC, 16 delegate for BHO. A coin flip somehow converted two uncommitted voters into BHO delegates to break the “tie” of 16 delegates each. _________ believes the reported results were 16HRC/18BHO but should have been 16HRC/ 3BHO.
Example:At 7:05pm at the Precinct Convention, all of the voting for the primary was complete and all of the caucus goers were seated. ________ reported that the Obama chair waited an hour and said “we did not expect this many people so we will have to move” when no move was necessary. The chair said “just sign your name and address and then you can leave.” When asked “what about our presidential preference?” the Obama chair replied “we don’t have time for that…just write your name and address.”
Example:At the Precinct Convention, Obama supporters told 70-100 Hillary supporters to leave and the majority of them left, including a number of elderly people. Obama supporters took over the packet and the convention. These people are believed to have signed in and to have cast their presidential preference.
That’s part of the unreported record; I selected incidents reported by voters, not party or campaign operatives.
Was this undemocratic, delegitimizing, and possibly criminal behavior by (some) Obama supporters widespread in TX? The argument can certainly be made that this is the reason for the gross disparity between the results of the full-fledged secret ballot election and the caucuses. Because we’ve got over 2000 claims of rules violiations, with reports of potentially criminal handling of election packets in 16 precincts, and lockouts of Clinton supporters in 11.*** Tendentiously: It’s not that the Obama team is better organized; the issue is better organized at doing what, exactly….
Finally, as a sidelight, I should say that some insiders say that the Clinton legal team had access to plenty of data of this kind, including affidavits, but chose the strategy of working within the rules set by the Texas Democratic Party to maximize the delegate count on a case-by-case basis. If that’s true, it looks like the RBC aren’t the only ones to make Florida 2000 a process to emulate, rather than a horror to avoid.
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If I were a journalist—alas, it looks like the El Paso Times is in the tank for Obama, so local coverage is no good — instead of a C list blogger, I’d want answers to the following questions: Ask the Clinton legal team to provide the approximately 200 affidavits they gathered in Texas.
Ask the county TDP chairs to provide any evidence in their possession of irregularities from either side.
Ask witnesses to go on the public record. Only once, on the Mario Solice Marich radio show, has a witness in El Paso been asked by the media to discusses what they saw.
Ask caucus goers in other states if they had similar experiences as Texans.
Ask staffers from all campaigns to recall the worst irregularities they are aware of.
Ask all involved if they believe caucuses were legitimate this cycle.
Review polling data (such as at the NYT and CNN) to see if caucuses in Texas and elsewhere disenfranchised minority groups, in particular, Hispanics.
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